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Shaddow
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for dyes I would definetly go for +4WIT +4CON +5DEX.


Can you tell me how will you do that? :shock:
Maibe you have 4 slots or you know some hocus pocus shit. Pls share with us. /joke
Serious /I know Raz...he wrote that to fast...I'm sure he just misstyped.

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well at 1 vs 1 in oly you dont need dex ;p if the skill criticals depend on str you have to go for + str at thsi server...if not then dont cut dex and cut str...it depends from the server and from what you want and where...btw right for pvps you can not cut dex... but for 1 vs 1 if the server is like this you can ;p common dyes and these that all use are +5 dex and +4 con for daggers...use these ;p but if want him only for oly then go for +4 str +4 con and +4 wit ;p


lol who the fuck would want a dagger only for oly ??
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MustLoveL2 wrote:
Johnakos wrote:
well at 1 vs 1 in oly you dont need dex ;p if the skill criticals depend on str you have to go for + str at thsi server...if not then dont cut dex and cut str...it depends from the server and from what you want and where...btw right for pvps you can not cut dex... but for 1 vs 1 if the server is like this you can ;p common dyes and these that all use are +5 dex and +4 con for daggers...use these ;p but if want him only for oly then go for +4 str +4 con and +4 wit ;p


lol who the fuck would want a dagger only for oly ??
who the fuk would make a dagger to farm oly oO:D
+1 lol
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Johnakos wrote:
well at 1 vs 1 in oly you dont need dex


/epicfail
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Xmvp wrote:
Johnakos wrote:
well at 1 vs 1 in oly you dont need dex


/epicfail


ye who the fuck would need speed to run and kite and evasion in oly...plus attack speed and critical rate that always help...
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MustLoveL2 wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
Johnakos wrote:
well at 1 vs 1 in oly you dont need dex


/epicfail


ye who the fuck would need speed to run and kite and evasion in oly...plus attack speed and critical rate that always help...

mages dun need crit rate and atk sd
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Shaddow wrote:
razveck wrote:
for dyes I would definetly go for +4WIT +4CON +5DEX.


Can you tell me how will you do that? :shock:
Maibe you have 4 slots or you know some hocus pocus shit. Pls share with us. /joke
Serious /I know Raz...he wrote that to fast...I'm sure he just misstyped.

Yeah I noticed it after posting, was hoping nobody would notice xD

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razveck wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
razveck wrote:
for dyes I would definetly go for +4WIT +4CON +5DEX.


Can you tell me how will you do that? :shock:
Maibe you have 4 slots or you know some hocus pocus shit. Pls share with us. /joke
Serious /I know Raz...he wrote that to fast...I'm sure he just misstyped.

Yeah I noticed it after posting, was hoping nobody would notice xD

dood edit it ffs
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I have been playing Wind Rider for a very long time.

I read all your post.
I have tested many dyes on my char.

My usual setup was:
+5 dex - 5 str ; and +4 wit -4 int


But on new gracia server i would rather reccomend go with only:
( IF YOU ARE LV 81 or higher, if not stick to previous dyes +5 dex)

+5 wit and - 5 int, +1 dex - 1 con

New gear now is very hard to defeat, u need crits, but Wind rider already crits a lot without dyes, going -str wont help much.... if one is fully buffed you will attack like with a fether:
try attack a Knight class with vesper armour, and tell me how it goes.
Evasion is already busted, you just need wind riding lv 81 skill.

This is how I think it
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Amelika wrote:
I have been playing Wind Rider for a very long time.

I read all your post.
I have tested many dyes on my char.

My usual setup was:
+5 dex - 5 str ; and +4 wit -4 int


But on new gracia server i would rather reccomend go with only:
( IF YOU ARE LV 81 or higher, if not stick to previous dyes +5 dex)

+5 wit and - 5 int, +1 dex - 1 con

New gear now is very hard to defeat, u need crits, but Wind rider already crits a lot without dyes, going -str wont help much.... if one is fully buffed you will attack like with a fether:
try attack a Knight class with vesper armour, and tell me how it goes.
Evasion is already busted, you just need wind riding lv 81 skill.

This is how I think it

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!
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I've read here a long time but never post so this is my first :)

Question to the many dagger pros here:

After watching all these videos over time of TH (like gustavs, etc.) it seems they kill majority of enemies from the front. But with PW as I've tried on high-rates, you cannot kill anything from the front. None of the blows ever land (all testing was done at 80+). Even on mobs that are 10 lvls below, it doesn't land from the front... but these guys in videos drop everyone from the front when trick/switch/bluff fails. What is this? Just pure luck and video editing?

I've always played archer/healer so I'm just starting to learn about the daggers. TY.
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jadehouse wrote:
I've read here a long time but never post so this is my first :)

Question to the many dagger pros here:

After watching all these videos over time of TH (like gustavs, etc.) it seems they kill majority of enemies from the front. But with PW as I've tried on high-rates, you cannot kill anything from the front. None of the blows ever land (all testing was done at 80+). Even on mobs that are 10 lvls below, it doesn't land from the front... but these guys in videos drop everyone from the front when trick/switch/bluff fails. What is this? Just pure luck and video editing?

I've always played archer/healer so I'm just starting to learn about the daggers. TY.


the blows have the same probability to land from front and from the back...the difference is the damage...since a dagger uses focus power/death it reduces the damage from front 30% but not the land rate...in those vids the dagger is just lucky to sometimes land lethal/half-death from front...dunno but that's maybe your server problem :S or that or you are using backstabs from front lol...
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MustLoveL2 wrote:
jadehouse wrote:
I've read here a long time but never post so this is my first :)

Question to the many dagger pros here:

After watching all these videos over time of TH (like gustavs, etc.) it seems they kill majority of enemies from the front. But with PW as I've tried on high-rates, you cannot kill anything from the front. None of the blows ever land (all testing was done at 80+). Even on mobs that are 10 lvls below, it doesn't land from the front... but these guys in videos drop everyone from the front when trick/switch/bluff fails. What is this? Just pure luck and video editing?

I've always played archer/healer so I'm just starting to learn about the daggers. TY.


the blows have the same probability to land from front and from the back...the difference is the damage...since a dagger uses focus power/death it reduces the damage from front 30% but not the land rate...in those vids the dagger is just lucky to sometimes land lethal/half-death from front...dunno but that's maybe your server problem :S or that or you are using backstabs from front lol...


using deadly/lethal/blinding, and they land something like 1/5 from the front, but almost 100% from the back. so it must be the server (l2excavate), or im an idiot and one of those is a backstab.

edit: yea, it's the server.
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jadehouse wrote:
MustLoveL2 wrote:
jadehouse wrote:
I've read here a long time but never post so this is my first :)

Question to the many dagger pros here:

After watching all these videos over time of TH (like gustavs, etc.) it seems they kill majority of enemies from the front. But with PW as I've tried on high-rates, you cannot kill anything from the front. None of the blows ever land (all testing was done at 80+). Even on mobs that are 10 lvls below, it doesn't land from the front... but these guys in videos drop everyone from the front when trick/switch/bluff fails. What is this? Just pure luck and video editing?

I've always played archer/healer so I'm just starting to learn about the daggers. TY.


the blows have the same probability to land from front and from the back...the difference is the damage...since a dagger uses focus power/death it reduces the damage from front 30% but not the land rate...in those vids the dagger is just lucky to sometimes land lethal/half-death from front...dunno but that's maybe your server problem :S or that or you are using backstabs from front lol...


using deadly/lethal/blinding, and they land something like 1/5 from the front, but almost 100% from the back. so it must be the server (l2excavate), or im an idiot and one of those is a backstab.

edit: yea, it's the server.


ye i guessed lol :D
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