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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:54 pm 
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Dark elf females are whores. Fact.
Where's the proof?
Elf females may be whores too.
But there's no proof.
I love your posts with "blablabla is x. FACT."


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Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


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Icarus wrote:
Dark elf females are whores. Fact.
Where's the proof?
Elf females may be whores too.
But there's no proof.
I love your posts with "blablabla is x. FACT."


+1

It will be a fact when u give the formula :) Auron


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Midlusionz wrote:
Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


with this all + passive skill WM in your Som/arcana etc (from augumentation)
you have about 70%of magical critical rate hit. I saw a calc wchich calculate that chances. And I tested it on IT l2off and generally it was good calculation


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adasqo wrote:
Midlusionz wrote:
Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


with this all + passive skill WM in your Som/arcana etc (from augumentation)
you have about 70%of magical critical rate hit. I saw a calc wchich calculate that chances. And I tested it on IT l2off and generally it was good calculation
With that critical rate is like a 54% +infinity scepter become like 82% but that means like -15% cast speed!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:41 am 
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but you dont have calc where is calculated WM lvl10 from augumentation. All in all that mean you have WildMagic lvl 13 on full buff omg :O owned by nature ;;p


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IvoR wrote:
adasqo wrote:
Midlusionz wrote:
Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


with this all + passive skill WM in your Som/arcana etc (from augumentation)
you have about 70%of magical critical rate hit. I saw a calc wchich calculate that chances. And I tested it on IT l2off and generally it was good calculation
With that critical rate is like a 54% +infinity scepter become like 82% but that means like -15% cast speed!


No, magical critical rate has been caped aroound 30% (around dont know the exact number)


I dont need any friggin formula to know that STR affects direclty the critical rate of skills, just test it yourselves, try doing tss x20 times and then do it again with PL set and +4str (so the difference will be bigger)

The diference its from 20%~ to 55%~


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Auron wrote:
IvoR wrote:
adasqo wrote:
Midlusionz wrote:
Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


with this all + passive skill WM in your Som/arcana etc (from augumentation)
you have about 70%of magical critical rate hit. I saw a calc wchich calculate that chances. And I tested it on IT l2off and generally it was good calculation
With that critical rate is like a 54% +infinity scepter become like 82% but that means like -15% cast speed!


No, magical critical rate has been caped aroound 30% (around dont know the exact number)


I dont need any friggin formula to know that STR affects direclty the critical rate of skills, just test it yourselves, try doing tss x20 times and then do it again with PL set and +4str (so the difference will be bigger)

The diference its from 20%~ to 55%~
if undestand all STR is most important thing even for the dagers probably we will have to use a new dye like -9 DEX +5 STR +4 CON and my skils will be not faster but everytime i hit i will make critical or leanthal with -9 str i make each time critical and 3:1 leanthal what i will make with +9 STR every hit leanthal or something?


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Auron wrote:
IvoR wrote:
adasqo wrote:
Midlusionz wrote:
Like mage .. They dun got magic crit meter .. But they crit damn alot with full buff (Siren+PoW+WM+Valakas necky)


with this all + passive skill WM in your Som/arcana etc (from augumentation)
you have about 70%of magical critical rate hit. I saw a calc wchich calculate that chances. And I tested it on IT l2off and generally it was good calculation
With that critical rate is like a 54% +infinity scepter become like 82% but that means like -15% cast speed!


No, magical critical rate has been caped aroound 30% (around dont know the exact number)


I dont need any friggin formula to know that STR affects direclty the critical rate of skills, just test it yourselves, try doing tss x20 times and then do it again with PL set and +4str (so the difference will be bigger)

The diference its from 20%~ to 55%~


thats why PL is light :P for daggers


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:04 am 
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interesting :) new way of playing daggers:D? dyes +5 STR and we will have better skill crit hmm... but when we have -DEX dyes the reuse time will be much bigger :/


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People, you're starting the aberation here. If str TRULY influences skill crit rate (though i doubt it), daggers are unaffected by it. And don't dare to argue me.


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I had wondered that my self for a long time... but from my experience either I am very lucky or it really depends on critical chance. With plainswalker I use -8 STR dyes... I used to skill critical the most of all daggers, when I picked the SR and used -4STR dyes, skill critical chance was way higher than PR or HE, so as I said... either I am very lucky getting skill criticals or they arent afected by STR (what would be stupid anyway)


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wazawanga i will ignore you from now on, you are clearly retarded.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:23 pm 
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The skill critical rate that i talk about its interlude and Ct1, and excludes the land rate from blows (that always say "critical hit"), it does affect critical rate from backstabs (the backstab can be critical and hit x2 the normal bs damage)
And this excludes (i guess) lethal probability.


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 Post subject: Re: Skill critical rate - what does it depend on?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:03 am 
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Auron wrote:
PaaGRIO wrote:
Auron wrote:
PaaGRIO wrote:
This is the question i cant find a good answer to, so if anyone has any info on a formula or smth usefull about that topic pls answer. What i mean is what is essential for skill crits:
- high STR ( most ppl think its STR, i dont but its just a hunch i`m not sure )
- high DEX
- high crit rate
- skill mastery / focus skill mastery
Feel free to answer :)


Well its 100% like i will say:

Skill Critical Rate(excluding blows) depends on STR.
Critical Rate depends on DEX and buffs
Blow land rate i dunno (no one nows for sure lvl afects but the actual % and its modifiers dunno)


This its always talking about interlude and CT1 (previously skills wouldnt be critical)


Any hard evidence of what u are saying or is it just what u read in some forum. Believe me today i read almost every forum about that topic and nothing was certain. So if u have smth to proove your theory do post if not than its just another opinion not 100% but still :) smth

Critical rate of skills its influenced only by STR.
Fact.


it won't be fair against mages. what depends on mages cri rate?


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