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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:37 am 
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hi all :) i have play with warlock in low rate and is a rly good char..about other summoners i was wondering for es how much m attack has unicorn at high lvl without buffs and how much with buffs..who is best summoner for oly/1 vs1/1vs many and an augment lvl 10 magic skill to hit has lower power than death spike of ps or more? i am mad with summoners these days the onyl chars that make me interesting in la still.. cause i am bored of all others ;p ty :) also write your favorite summoner here :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:44 pm 
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My favourite is phantom summoner for both pve and pvp purposes. The hex cubic really sais its word, especially on multiplied hp mobs (2x, 3x, 4x). ALSO, the shadow is the greatest possible summon for farming, because it has a 15% vampiric rage passive. That's huge considering that vr lvl 4 gives 9% absorption. You can only reach 15% by vr 4 + dance of vampire.

From gracia if I'm correct, summons don't take xp anymore. The shadow used to take away 90% of the xp. Guess what, now the ps is one of the easiest characters to level.

Next up: the nightshade + the mass storm cubic. These two summons ensure that you are welcomed in any melee pve party, and also in some mage parties. Why? Nightshade's 'curse of shade' and 'mass curse of shade' decrease pdef and mdef, and also stacks with hex, gloom and any decreasement of pdef and mdef. ALSO the key part is that it also has a 2k aggro power. And remember, there's also the MASS curse of shade with the exact same effects and land rates, but it affects a 200 range circular aoe.
This is not all. How about the shade sacrifice? A heal which uses hp instead of mp (you don't need a recharger, a big plus) of 660 power. It's not that much, but it's the greatest strategy for pve since the shade can pull aggro if the target is in trouble. The heal also draws aggro with 800 power.

So, you have a tank, a minihealer and a debuffer in 1 slot of party. Instead of wasting two slots for tank + healer, you can just waste 1 slot for ps, and you also get great debuffs in exchange. Just a tip: don't try this in pvp. The shade heal reuse is 8 seconds. It's only suited for low damage taken.

In pvp, you get very good summons, you get hexing cubic and you ALSO get spark cubic which makes this class shine in pvp. Now you're probably wondering wtf is this spark cubic? Just a few words: 80% land on 1.8k matk magical stun. 9 seconds duration. Combo this with a spectral lord and the 55-power death spike the ps has. You just got a killer combo.

So, finally we have:
10/10 for solo
10/10 for party
10/10 for selfbuffed pvp
but only 3/10 for fullbuffed pvp

This is one of the easiest to level, and one of the best in oly. The downpart? It's hard to play, just like most dark elven classes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:47 pm 
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well i had 77 arcana lord in a few days...good for xp good for full buffed pvps me vs 3-4 ppl and good self buffed too...es dissapoints me cause in a full buffed pvp i dont think that unicorn will do much...also no mage bane for es ... what happened against mages?? it will be a little harder...arcana lord is a complete char mage bane warrior bane and arcana distruption...its not bad right? :D you add a magic skill augment and its fine..ps lack of men,casting speed,ye spark cubik has is more effective than binding,much more but no warrior bane this time..maybe he is better with self buffs for pve..but i dont mind so much pve..i want my summoner to own vs many people full bufed and be god in oly too..so i will make warlock again damn ;p he dont have only debuff to lower speed ;/ only warrior bane but its ok ;p anyone knows if death spike is more powerfull or not than a augment magic skill(death spike lvl 10 for example)??


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:53 pm 
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i dont want to be helper in parties too..i want pvps for me not for the others :D btw i had hero duelist in a low rate x4 and the summoner who was weakest one in oly vs me was es...maybe this was cause the spectral master hero and arcana lord hero were with impa items ;p


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Btw looking for new low rate server(x4 or lower) with not many people too...(i would happy if there are greeks in server too cause i play always with ro pl bg this last year ;p)


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easiest? not best? :D


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:33 am 
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imo wlk with augment=ps [better cubics, we have to face it, also poison]
es is only for parties, forget it for solo, only aoe or seraphim


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:20 pm 
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Lhyno wrote:
imo wlk with augment=ps [better cubics, we have to face it, also poison]
es is only for parties, forget it for solo, only aoe or seraphim


Summonners rock.

For pve the best is PS i think, but I think that ES and Warlock is very good too.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:30 pm 
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What are ya talking about?
Without the prefer resist buffs DS kicks ass. Even with halved power. And when you are ganking around lvl 65 you pwn :D


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EUPHORIA wrote:
nah, in my opinion it will always be useless skill
i much rather would enjoy if they would add some new skill to summon than that shit


Your problem my friend.

BTW i cant overpam you. You won all spam pvps vs me :S


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summoner inf0? magnus at +3 full buffed IS PURE OWNAGE specially in mass pvp. Just try go with a magnus full buffed over the castle gates cast servitor UD and spam his aoe skill you will be fucking amazed seeing daggers-archer being 1-hitted (mc ofc)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:34 pm 
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2xristos92 wrote:
summoner inf0? magnus at +3 full buffed IS PURE OWNAGE specially in mass pvp. Just try go with a magnus full buffed over the castle gates cast servitor UD and spam his aoe skill you will be fucking amazed seeing daggers-archer being 1-hitted (mc ofc)


+1

Magnus has 9620 M.attack in full buff. Amazing shit.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:14 am 
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well ds is crap... as i asked before an augment magic skill is better than ds..so ds dont need so much when you get a good augment...about es the only problem is that dont have debuffs for mages :Dall the other are perfect .. in mass pvp will be good with mash aqua hits ;p


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