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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:31 pm 
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IMO:

PvE: u know the bison setup
oly and general pvp. no dyes or just +3CON -3whatever u want

ofc +5 WIT all the way

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jesuschrist wrote:
first of all crit stun fist is utter shit only works on l2j
second of all fist = blunt = low crit rate so ---- dex means shit to a tyrant
second of all losing speed means what? most of the time u pvp with wolf totem it gives speed and u nuke around a bit or use hurricane
third the lose in attack speed is nothing

why every1 goes +5/4 str and +4/5 con and -9 dex = cus of bison

wanna xp like a mad cow go +4/5 con atleast cus more hp means faster 30% hp means more crits
the +5/4 str is up to u, u probally dont need it in pve though its 100% beter then havin a bit more dex but w/e
in pvp u do want +4/5 str because skill crits go tru str hence more str means more skill crits

dex means shit to tyrant if u can play a tyrant u go -9 dex
if u cant play a tyrant and think like some morons here omg attack speed tyrant meng crit rate(this 1 made me lol in rl) meng dont nerf dex ur a retard
also accuracy lose is made up by totems which give +++accuracy a fist gives ++ accuracy evasion on orc doesnt exist

health fist + health setup = win the +4/5 str is up to ur self

FRIGGIN +1 here


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nice work i`ll try this :)


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jesuschrist wrote:
first of all crit stun fist is utter shit only works on l2j
second of all fist = blunt = low crit rate so ---- dex means shit to a tyrant
second of all losing speed means what? most of the time u pvp with wolf totem it gives speed and u nuke around a bit or use hurricane
third the lose in attack speed is nothing

why every1 goes +5/4 str and +4/5 con and -9 dex = cus of bison

wanna xp like a mad cow go +4/5 con atleast cus more hp means faster 30% hp means more crits
the +5/4 str is up to u, u probally dont need it in pve though its 100% beter then havin a bit more dex but w/e
in pvp u do want +4/5 str because skill crits go tru str hence more str means more skill crits

dex means shit to tyrant if u can play a tyrant u go -9 dex
if u cant play a tyrant and think like some morons here omg attack speed tyrant meng crit rate(this 1 made me lol in rl) meng dont nerf dex ur a retard
also accuracy lose is made up by totems which give +++accuracy a fist gives ++ accuracy evasion on orc doesnt exist

health fist + health setup = win the +4/5 str is up to ur self


Yea +1.
Tyrant is not a dagger :P


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+1 and also stop dreaming * and saying that in other occasions u'll need different dyes cause of this, and that and ... Use u'r dyes and go against a well setuped Glad/Gk. If u win gf.

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I believe for duelist best dyes are str+5 con -5, same dyes at tyrant! I would propose to low dex!


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NOT* to low dex... soz for second reply!


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Rob3nTonBoskwN wrote:
I believe for duelist best dyes are str+5 con -5, same dyes at tyrant! I would propose to low dex!


who cares about gladi?? no one mentioned his dyes or somthing...this topic is about ty.....

also you have the edit button...you can use it to edit post you know....it prevents ppl from double posting....


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MustLoveL2 wrote:
Rob3nTonBoskwN wrote:
I believe for duelist best dyes are str+5 con -5, same dyes at tyrant! I would propose to low dex!


who cares about gladi?? no one mentioned his dyes or somthing...this topic is about ty.....

also you have the edit button...you can use it to edit post you know....it prevents ppl from double posting....
kiza said that the button is called edit skills :roll: :roll:

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YES!!! lower DEX!!!! and NO!!! don't lower DEX!!!!

some of u here forgot to play this game for fun, really, i'm not insulting u, i'm not moking u, it's a fact. coz of guys like u religions have to split of into sects, and the guys with white hats hate those with black ones.

For those guys who say lower dex:
Yeah!!! u can do that, so u wanna get the gamestyle to the duelist. it's for 78+. u go -8 or -9 dex, u get ic or tallm heavy and HP Fists. HEY !!! it's a posibility!!! maybe use bear/bison/ogre totem. then u'll be a big green panzer, rip the head out of tanks and dagger (imo).

no!!! go - con and +dex and u'll be the ultimate mage killer, fast slick...

hey, i tried even zubei light with Dragon Grinder + risk evasin, evasion buffs and +5dex just for fun!!!

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Ehh 3 pages for a lol topic .... the thing is simple the GK is good while he is in Zealot + Bison other then this it's just a weak version of a Duelist . So overall you either whana use Zealot + Bison at 2.5k HP OR 5.5k / 6k ... damn simple , your choice , your playstyle .

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Sekkurel wrote:
coldy wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
eah its true that some fighters dont really need dex that much
but most of them do :)
yeah its that zealot compensates for it but you cant really spam it
and yeah on the glady its a must that - dex

So you recomand -9 dex for tyrants and glads?And what about PVE...
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed... :lol:
Perhaps something like that.Don't you think so? :?

show me 1 glad that kills using only duals
he is a skill spammer and unlike daggers his skills dont miss


what u playign some retarded chronicle c5? glad misses skills as dagers now.

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guzeris wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
coldy wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
eah its true that some fighters dont really need dex that much
but most of them do :)
yeah its that zealot compensates for it but you cant really spam it
and yeah on the glady its a must that - dex

So you recomand -9 dex for tyrants and glads?And what about PVE...
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed... :lol:
Perhaps something like that.Don't you think so? :?

show me 1 glad that kills using only duals
he is a skill spammer and unlike daggers his skills dont miss


what u playign some retarded chronicle c5? glad misses skills as dagers now.


Yea, but only 2 times from a 200 tries so it doesn't matter.
(In pvp daggers have a CHANCE to avoid skills, in PvE it never happened to me yet.)

AND no to mention that in pve it is megalol to think that you will miss a lot xDDDDD
Mainly if u are buffed. Since Guidance 3 gives 4 accuracy, so the disadvantage is already halved.
And if u have Dancer too the disadvantage disappears.


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guzeris wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
coldy wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
eah its true that some fighters dont really need dex that much
but most of them do :)
yeah its that zealot compensates for it but you cant really spam it
and yeah on the glady its a must that - dex

So you recomand -9 dex for tyrants and glads?And what about PVE...
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed
you have missed... :lol:
Perhaps something like that.Don't you think so? :?

show me 1 glad that kills using only duals
he is a skill spammer and unlike daggers his skills dont miss


what u playign some retarded chronicle c5? glad misses skills as dagers now.

guzeris ur a fuking retard


Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:23 pm

thats fuking april 2008 retard!gracia wasnt even ment back then


tyrants have no use of dex
if u dont wana drop 2 much ur dex use +4/5-4/5 con-dex
never drop con
never never never never


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Dex - 9
STR +5
CON +4

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