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 Post subject: Paladin dmg dealer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Somewhat uncommon, I decided to throw away much of my CON as a paladin and turn him into a heavy armored damage dealer.

Dyes
+2 DEX -2 CON
+3 DEX -3 CON
+4 STR -4 CON
Which in total removes 9 of my CON about 1.000 HP points and some stun resistance, though I don't seem to be stunned a lot even with these.

Armor
Tallum straightaway and stick with this. Just asking for atk.spd. and some bleed poison resists is welcome. Also removes 2 CON for 2 STR.

Weapons
Now here is a variety of weapons i suppose that are nice:
Focus SA on any one handed sword and go for an LS with critical, extremely deadly.
Haste SA on some one handed sword and go for any LS that can give you dmg, atk spd, critcal, whatever, just offensive.
Health weapons, somewhat I dislike them for this style, but maybe can save your life once or twice.

Strategy
Majesty always on (spends some of your extra evasion).
Consider leveling up you Shackle and even enchanting it after 3rd occupation.
Angelic Icon is your most important advantage, go for the 30% life and there you go, final fortress and angelic icon, if you shackle or stun the other guy and combine it with an Ultimate defense, probably +1 pvp.
Go for top jewels and overenchant them in order to save your ass from a mage that can kill you in 3 spells.
Use tribunal as much as possible.
Shield fortress is for duels with tanks and chars that are unaffected by stun. Dont let it spend all your mana.
Learn how to disable your opponent, use stun to interrupt casting.

Pros/Cons
+Great damage and armor.
+Resistant to stun with stats same with a Shillien Knight.
+30% life means 70% more power! :P
+Additional speed letting you escape.
-Not much life, maybe less than daggers.
-Not very good at staying alive when it comes to mages.


I want opinions and/or suggestions on this build! :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:25 pm 
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great damage?!and armor means what?str doesnt add pdef
nor dex does:D
additional speed?wait wait i gotta calculate the stats and lol a lot


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:35 pm 
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Dmg is added via the STR and you get to hit more than others if you use a haste weapon, focus weapons are good as far as your opponent gets stunned so that you kill them in a few hits.
P.Def is because of the class, Pala is a tank.
Speed and stuff is because of the DEX.

EDIT: P.Def at 76 is at about 1300, not bad for a damage dealing char. And damage near 700, atk.spd 650++, Critical with a focus weapon at 200+, speed is exactly 173 and angelic icon gets it to 203 and that's about it. Already know the stats maybe I will post a screenshot with my stats soon and later on when I get the Damascus Haste, I will post another one with my full build for now! :P

Any ideas on how to improve this dmg dealing paladin?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:41 pm 
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That may be useful in very small pvp...

In real pvp everyone plays his role. There is no point in turning a tank into a dd. If you want a real dd for that case you should have chosen a nuker, a destro, an archer or something. PK's job is to buff pt and hate enemies...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:47 pm 
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your paladin with wc 78 buffs has
4109-hp(with btb 5547)
2054-cp
1033-pattk
803-atk spd(fb haste)
105-speed(with ww2-138)
138-crit rate




134-speed without dex dyes(NO SHIT 4 SPEED DIFFERENCE!!CUZ TANKS ARE CHASERS)
768-atk spd
132-crit rate(fuxing 6 crit rate!)
6423-HP with btb(1k hp already-->just 5 con)
2378-CP(and 300 cp..i remind u 5 con)

wait wait lemme drop moar the dyes and calculate it without str dyes
911-pattk(like 100 patk..omgoses)
the best thing comes now


7201-HP
2667-cp


5547 hp vs 7901hp
2054cp vs 2667cp

looks like u lost around 2k hp+cp
i guess if u get ganked u gona die in some seconds
the overall difference in damage stats AINT THAT BIG

this setup could be used ONLY if u farm and ONLY if u love activating ur angelic icon at around 1300 hp

edit:paladin is not made for solo farming(at least in the old style-swords vs shield)
paladin levels with his banish undead

every class should play its role and no player should think about turning a non-damage dealer character into 1
cuz dropping high base con u rly drop a lot of ur defensive abilities
and tanks are made to hold dmg


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 pm 
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Ok, ok I got the point guys. But let's say we try to improve this dd paladin, is there any idea on what is possible to make him better and give him an edge in pvps? At least 1v1... :roll:


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hawk07 wrote:
Ok, ok I got the point guys. But let's say we try to improve this dd paladin, is there any idea on what is possible to make him better and give him an edge in pvps? At least 1v1... :roll:

moar hp?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:01 pm 
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Yes, in what way? Remove a dye, try a Health weapon, level up my buffer and singer? :P


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:06 pm 
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hawk07 wrote:
Yes, in what way? Remove a dye, try a Health weapon, level up my buffer and singer? :P

look in 1v1 u aint the best class except oly
and forget about tallum set
with ur setup u WILL get stunned
rly
ofc having buffs is a must
but when i play it i get craploadz of hp
do some shit till my hp goes down slowly cuz im a fuking hp/cp fortress
im stunnin around and shacklin and shit
my hp gets 30%?(remember in pvp u activate with ur setup the AI at around 1k hp..do u imagine how low is that?1 skillcrit could take u down)
then the heal breaks free
ai gives u bonus speed so forget about 4 difference in speed thanks to dex dyes
u r a nightmare
just land a nice shackle or even stunlock if u are lucky for 10-15-20 seconds would give u the edge in pvp
dont forget
if u have a bow u even have the chance to catch some running away from u nublets with the arrow:)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:12 pm 
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forget this dd pala every class plays its role tring to make paladin a dd is like trying to make a buffer out of a nuker

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:48 pm 
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this guide sux !


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:11 pm 
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for improving your dream worrior take MJ hv if you r so afraid of stun same as tallum 2str-2con the 40 atk speed don't have any effect at all .... but still one pala just with dye wit-int gonna make you cry ....
And i'm for the theory : Tank is Tank,Nuke is Nuke and etc.
if you want a DD NCsoft made 31 classes ^^ for each personality not to f**k up the heroes ....

P.S -
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this guide sux !
This is not a guide ...... i think ^^

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It sux anyway ;)


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nikeca wrote:
It sux anyway ;)

you r right:Dlold


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:19 am 
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Paladin as DD ??? LOL that idea suck i play paladin myselfe u will got owned in 1on1 from normal paladins 2 and oly u will have low chances with a set up like that..... mass pvp u have dds 2 deal dmg and not tanks lol ure job is 2 shackle , shield of faith, argression, aura of hate and stun enemys and not 2 hunt them down for stuff like that u have ure teammates.


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