breal visit school more often pls 10% out of the base skill crit rate that suposably is 30% makes how much , ou don`t tell me is it 3% ? So i`ll have like 28.5% skill crit rate and u`ll have 31.5% skill crit rate lucky u ...

3% is still an increase...but u get Skill Mastery activated more often, you get more P atk for grinding, you get more dmg on skills, i dont see anything profitable with +5dex, prove me wrong

we are not speaking about grinding man, read the topic pvp vs mages and archers. come on be serious ... btw how will skill mastery help u in this case ? shoot 2 blasters instead of one, are we depending on luck now ? well yea the HE will shoot a Lethal shot and u`ll die imediately nmatter the stats ... proove me wrong. We are not speaking about luck here with my setup i`ll kill the archer 100% without skills criting. Your gear depens on skill crit rate thats why u win some u loose some. I win always

you are still not saying anything... you know that Patk on normal hits matters on bison and zealot, dont you ?

You wont get close enought to use bison and zealot on the archer ...

draco light -9 dex bison +zealot
Speed 177

cause you dont have stun attack or cripple ? Nothing saves you from a fukin archer on counter dash + full buff + s/d

u should start experimenting more and trying to fight ppl in rabbit totem, maybe loose the heavy too. Rabbit +5 dex give not only speed, but also decent evasion. most of u don`t use that but u have to thin about it, about the hamsting - brake durres
the avarage HE evasion is 127
tyrant with my gear and dyes in rabbit has 135 u know archers have nice evasion ? well orc can have it too, but u gotta think a lil bit...

even your orc in rabbit will have a normal archers evasion of 127 and as u know even 1 point in evasion a precious tresure VS the low accurate archer and daggers thats the best weapon.

no big chances for an orc to agile arrows. I have actve evasion on my DB that means i have ~130+ agility on rabbit and still an EE with DC robe and DB could hit me w/o misses, why should i rely on it ? I dont rely on something called luck in game. Luck is for daggers only. They should go for more evasion, not a strong melee fighter

What is your greatest fear in oly ? paladins with shield slam right since i took this dyes i never worry for slaming and besides the EE could might just have a passive: guidence augment + his buffs ofc he`ll hit u ... and ofc dyes for every buffer +4dex+4con/-8str as every healer ... what do u expect

Btw where is the logic to use rabbit+bow vs EE+bow. OFC u use hawk: for more accurasy and crit dmg i don`t understand u realy. U seemed to be expirienced in that class before ... and another thing totems don`t usualy work with bows

and how the fuk +5 dex protects you from slamming. My greatest fear in oly is an EE with nuke augment, everything else can be killed. ATM on wrath GH 79 lvl are with bugged counter attack skill, so you just commit a suicide if you face one. Paladins are nothing special w/o full rb jewels or at least w/o a valakas. Archers in oly are dying from ranged skills only, i dont really make an effort when i see hawkeye. Mages + OLs + WCs make me 500-800 dmg so i dont really care. Ofc OL with 2k p def is a pain in the ass and i gotta hit zealot + bison and barrier. He is dead until he notices that i am invulnerable.

edit: i've never said i use a bow with rabbit. I said i have active agility on my bow. The only chance against EE with nuke augment is pre-zealot + bow. And no, i never use hawk - crappiest toten until gracia final.

Paagrio is back Yaaaayy
Imo Tyrants should use +4Con -4Dex and end of story. What do you think?

Or i would risk to use +4con -4 str at lvl 82, but im not so sure.

Againts every char a tyrant can behave different and in most cases i get dyes that will help me kill the most popular class on the server ... in c4 it was necro/destroes - one dyes set, in INterlude glads and and paladins with AI - another type of dyes, on servers populated with archers - whole different set. Look i play only tyrant cause i know how. In every server i go the dyes are different, there are different buggs, different overpowered chars - so the dyes are not the same everywhere.

On the server that this guy plays in the archers and mages are his problem. Best tactic is - be fast > criple > spam skills. U don`t need def VS mages. U need it vs archers but most of all u need the speed to criple him first. After that bizon+zealot+barrier+crit.stun fist and bb

I am not speakin here for the best tyrant setup. I am on the topic. The topic doesn`t have EEs with augmente nuke, neither does it say its oly style pvp. In oly i use +5 COn -5 dex thats all, but outside where every1 is eventualy buffed, this dyes don`t work. U have to play on an archer dominated server u`ll see how it is

Main thing abou fights with archers is RAbbit + criple + stun hoep it land + skill spam thats all, BUT FIRST IS ALWAYS THE CRIPPLE u don`t slow the archer first u die.

About that EE problem u have, did u try prezealot + hawk + crit stun fist ?
The other option prezealot + haste fists + skill spaming / so u can hit some skills before he burns all your mana maybe ...

so you want to tell me that u used +5 dex on c4... its ok i can now understand why... no point to draw such symbols after that.

Better if i stay with SE. Simple dyes, big boobs ^-^

i rly followed all the posts
everything
and i have to admit that +5 dex wont change ANYTHING at all
evasion on orc=lold
catching an archer in dash/counter+song of wind=dream
no matter what dyes u have
rly tested that shi7 in a nonlolserver

anyway which idiotic tyrant picks targets that will see him at 2k+range?
that reminds me of those monsters in serious sam
the ones without heads and bombs on their hands
proly ull remember those assholes

anyway suicider

u also need to get in range for 2 skills
cripple
soul breaker
if 1 of those lands time for QQ

id go +5con-5dex if u think that -9 is too drastical

my 5 cents