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 Post subject: About Grand Khavatari just want to know ur opinion
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:12 am 
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If this kind of fye for my GK is good??

STR+5 DEX-5

is this a great set up, mainly i just want to kill mages and archers, does str affects the damage of a skill??

like burning fist if i would add str would the damage go up??


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:51 am 
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abed28 wrote:
If this kind of fye for my GK is good??

STR+5 DEX-5

is this a great set up, mainly i just want to kill mages and archers, does str affects the damage of a skill??

like burning fist if i would add str would the damage go up??


that's a good setup but you should add also +4con -4dex

str doesn't increase skills damage only skill crit chance....


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:15 pm 
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as said above ur setup is nice
but honestly i would go for +5con+4str
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and yes skill crit chance=str


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:28 pm 
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Yout dies are fine, it works good vs mages. But i think i would just use only +5 CON -5DEX, but if you like that setup, than it is good, i think you will have no problems with it :)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:43 pm 
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thx for ur advice, i think i would go for +5cond -5dex,


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Imo +5con is better cos of stun resist, and both opponents u mentioned have low/medium pdef and hp (base damage is enough), and in open field -DEX is never a good option for a tyrant... an sr can outrun you in rabbit totem if u use -9 dex. And enchant cripple if u can. :)

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+5 con, -5 dex
thats it

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RAFAR wrote:
Imo +5con is better cos of stun resist, and both opponents u mentioned have low/medium pdef and hp (base damage is enough), and in open field -DEX is never a good option for a tyrant... an sr can outrun you in rabbit totem if u use -9 dex. And enchant cripple if u can. :)

dun counter argue urself about the dex thing
cripple and rabbit+wolf totems are pretty much enough
add also zealot and u get the speed u want


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you have to be really good if you drop -9dex... no point to give burning fist as example...this skill is not that useful in pvp... useless I mean

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:59 pm 
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abed28 wrote:
If this kind of fye for my GK is good??

STR+5 DEX-5

is this a great set up, mainly i just want to kill mages and archers, does str affects the damage of a skill??

like burning fist if i would add str would the damage go up??


I see no1 is reading what the man said but anyway ... The dyes u have are bad. He wanted to kill mages and archers ( fast type unit ) tell me how do u win a HE with dash in -9 DEX i realy would like to know that ... ?

+5 dex -5 STR dyes for killing archers in light armor ...

btw don`t overate rabit in -9 dex its not that much + zealot :) ea a nice skill but will he run so fast compared with a +4 dex+4 str -8 con HE ? guese not :) Maybe use barier in zealot and star spaming Cp pots :)? well barier is 8 secs dash is 14-15.

LOW dex on a tyrant only in OLY in pvp thats suicide...

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*crap* -str on Tyrant GG

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Breal wrote:
*crap* -str on Tyrant GG


can u proove what u are saying or just spaming ... ? Thats why i don`t log so much here anymore nothing to learn from u guys :) too bad we had a nice forum :)

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PaaGRIO wrote:
Breal wrote:
*crap* -str on Tyrant GG


can u proove what u are saying or just spaming ... ? Thats why i don`t log so much here anymore nothing to learn from u guys :) too bad we had a nice forum :)


im just wishing you luck to kill ARcher with +5dex GK, even if you resist hamstring shot. Speed difference will be minimal... seems like you dont log ingame either.

ps: +5dex = +7 speed

220 speed = wolf, drac set +5dex.. hamstring shot 14x = GL killing archer with lolspeed and loldmg
206 same setup +5str = on hamstring shot = same sh1t with the speed, you wont reach your enemy but u can do amazing dmg with your ranged skills
213 same setup no dyes

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Breal wrote:
PaaGRIO wrote:
Breal wrote:
*crap* -str on Tyrant GG


can u proove what u are saying or just spaming ... ? Thats why i don`t log so much here anymore nothing to learn from u guys :) too bad we had a nice forum :)


im just wishing you luck to kill ARcher with +5dex GK, even if you resist hamstring shot. Speed difference will be minimal... seems like you dont log ingame either.

ps: +5dex = +7 speed

220 speed = wolf, drac set +5dex.. hamstring shot 14x = GL killing archer with lolspeed and loldmg
206 same setup +5str = on hamstring shot = same sh1t with the speed, you wont reach your enemy but u can do amazing dmg with your ranged skills
213 same setup no dyes


And i guese u use wolf totem vs archers right ? I believe u got used to killing only gladiators with your tyrant :) u should stop the pvp servers :) Playing on a server dominated by glads and tyrant doesn`t mean the dyes u use there will help u in this guys case ... STR doest influence skill dmg and the skill crit rate improovement for every point of STR is around 1 % so hell yea 4% are gona do the AMAZING dmg - too bad u`ll never get to shoot that blaster ...

selfbuffed tyrant in draco light +5dex -5 str
wolf totem:
P.Atk. 891
Speed 167

rabbit totem:
P.Atk. 688
Speed 180


selfbuffed tyrant in draco light -9dex +5str +4con
wolf totem:
P.Atk. 1054
Speed 153

rabbit totem:
P.Atk. 802
Speed 165

selfbuffed tyrant in ic heavy -9dex +5str +4con ( breals favourite i guese ... )
wold totem:
P.Atk. 1047
Speed 140

rabbit totem:
P.Atk. 797
Speed 152

Your avarage Sagitarius in draco light +4dex+4str /-8con +4wit/-4int
P.Atk. 2582
Speed 196
Speed 143 - no dash ( rarely happens )

as u my boy can see my setup can work in wolf totem and i`ll still be faster than yousetup in rabbit totem, not only that but my p.aatck in wolf will be bigger than your in rabbit. I think that u can manage to see the truff of my words here if u can well thats another thing.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:31 pm 
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you can see what server i am playing... last time i played on a pvp server was 2 years ago. The difference between -5 STR and +5 STR is 10%..so here you fail again. Maybe you want to put focus on your fists and play on puma with VR too.. i dont really care. But dont confuse ppl who are new to the game or played only with archers. and yes i use wolf, since rabbit really fuks up my Patk. And another thing you failed is that STR doesnt influence skill dmg. it does, a little but can be felt on criticals.

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