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mariosxx
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:58 pm 
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Dude if you Snipe in open pvp you would be main target for de-buff attack's and you should start praying that no melle class is near you . Do not mistake the open pvp with siege .. and the Dex is mesured in % and after 38 Dex the Elf class get's like 2% crit rate and more .. so 2% it's not 5 crit rate . You should start play some real l2 and stop playing on bull server's. All HE from retail complained about Eva Shot in Oly ... i belive you donno what evasion you can make with an Sr at 40 Dex / Draconic Armor +6 and Eva Shot so please go back to c2 and let the Interlude guyz play . By the way after C4 at end-game all Adventure Sux , the only skill that you have is Dash .. hmm .. GH / WR have Blinding Blow that > Dash from far . 1 on 1 with every other dageer Th will lose ... and if you ask yourself why well Human have lowest Men so WR will easyly land Entangle and if you whana talk about GH maybe Sting + Bleed + Poison tell's you something and ofc FS + Hex + PB so stop playing server's where dot dosen't work and learn real l2 .

Lol you even think before you post?
And yeah its 5 crit rate lul...try l2calc and see for urself :p
And lol @ that TH will lose to other daggers, its based 30% on ability
and 70% on luck , nabcake...
Also, I NEVER heard about ANYONE complaining about eva shot...
maybe its on your mind...
Facts: SR has only 2 more accu. (HE in snipe has more)
+6 evasion by Eva shot, wont make a big fifference....recheck l2calc..
And by open pvp you mean = ?
In whatever pvp in open ground, snipe is handy when used on right spot.

Maybe you play another game...

Also, @ Icarus... UE give +25 eva on SR...
Still you hit him 2/4.....
Why you think +6 evasion will help you that much? :p

SOOOOO as I said before, SR is only good in Oly cuz of self buffs...
And ALL humans suck without buffs.....but when it comes to pvp...
HE is better than PR/SR....and PR is close to HE.. :P


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Sasha_
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Well my friend looks like you are the type of the player that still is in C2 and say He and Th > all , anyway that Snipe shit is bad in open pvp you can say what you whant but you should ask ppl . As for Gr3k Dex dosen't affect land rate anymore , the data from Lineage2.com is not accurate anymore , this formula was wokring in C2 or C3 , i did some research lately and at the moment except MM SA / Focus Death / Chance / Power / Assasination nothing affects land rate of blows.Icarus why u say Sr Vs He .. He wins ? Depends on many factors like oly pvp / arena pvp / open pvp in all cases i see only + for Sr and only - for He . Pw Vs Aw is kinda hard BUT that Focus Death is hax i tell you .


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i think that he is better than pr..........

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In PvP HE is better, why? bcoz HE can carry more CP pots and that's what it's all about nowadays...

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I believe you have no clue what you are talking about.carrying more cp potions?FUCK THAT.sr has the highest dex which means highest speed,highest attack speed,highest critical chance.SR on rapid fire is rape so go ahead and spam how many cp potions you need but the elf can also do that so it all comes to damage per second (SR>HE)

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He is shit!!! the only question is SR or PR ? full buffed pr dont need skills cuz his criticals gives much more dmg than double shot :) Sr with full buffs is god cuz skills are recharging very fast and u can use double shot , stun shot , hit , double shot again ... i dont like He cuz he doest have speed ,atk speed and acurary , maybe hawkeye and snipe helps a lil bit but at the same time with snipe u cant move... its shit


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:25 pm 
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PR FTW!


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SirAdrian wrote:
I believe you have no clue what you are talking about.carrying more cp potions?FUCK THAT.sr has the highest dex which means highest speed,highest attack speed,highest critical chance.SR on rapid fire is rape so go ahead and spam how many cp potions you need but the elf can also do that so it all comes to damage per second (SR>HE)


i think u have never played on retail. maybe on your priv 300x server u can carry shiet loads of stuff but on official u cant. this is very big adventage of HE. sr has highest critical rate? yes u are right but fully buffed He has same value (500) and PR is close to those two with crit rate 460-470. novadays what really matter is not damage per second but damage per shot (talking about pvp). and actually only PR and HE can one-shot kill ppl. and that is what matters. with endgame buffs and equip they can hit for 12-14k leavin their target no chance to heal. sr is good in one thing -- running nothing more. u dont belive? go to retail . nobody is playing sr. this is sad but it is true.


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hbsr wrote:
SirAdrian wrote:
I believe you have no clue what you are talking about.carrying more cp potions?FUCK THAT.sr has the highest dex which means highest speed,highest attack speed,highest critical chance.SR on rapid fire is rape so go ahead and spam how many cp potions you need but the elf can also do that so it all comes to damage per second (SR>HE)


i think u have never played on retail. maybe on your priv 300x server u can carry shiet loads of stuff but on official u cant. this is very big adventage of HE. sr has highest critical rate? yes u are right but fully buffed He has same value (500) and PR is close to those two with crit rate 460-470. novadays what really matter is not damage per second but damage per shot (talking about pvp). and actually only PR and HE can one-shot kill ppl. and that is what matters. with endgame buffs and equip they can hit for 12-14k leavin their target no chance to heal. sr is good in one thing -- running nothing more. u dont belive? go to retail . nobody is playing sr. this is sad but it is true.

@SirAdrian: I quess U didn't detect that tiny piece of sarcasm in my post. But I wasn't completely sarcastic tho, bcoz that is a huge factor in end game PvP...

As hbsr already stated, in end game PvP it's all about spike damage. For this PR is a beast. It's easy to potspam/heal that "predictable" damage. But when U are giving 10k~ spike damage to some1 it's hella lot harder to potspam that and it's much more difficult for healers to predict it...
And what comes in SR...well... pretty much the only use for it is to play the role of a decoy...sad, but true...

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In end game archer pvp its all about who attacks 1st lol...
HE is better cuz has snipe (while PR has Deadeye which also pwns)
and gets + range which is a huge +.


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I like all 3 archers, but in this case i will go for HE.

PvP = HE
Olympiad = SR
Farming,Raiding: well let say PR>=<HE

PR is good, i love Dead'Eye and Fatal Counter but still.

HE +5DEX +4WIT + Maj : means 36 DEX , 37 CON , 40 STR (+8% P. Atk wich means ~another 4 STR), 15 WIT , 16,17 INT and 25 MEN.

And ppl i'd seened posts about highest speed etc.

Don't forget about Dash for god sake.

Archers : HE / Daggers : AW .


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why would a HE use +4 wit ? :|


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HAWKEYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I play in high rate server and i seen what archer with cov+cat buffs+epic+boss jewels can do to u...And every one play HE.I try to kill him with AW a lot of evasion with UE too...But he still hit me maybe 1 from 4shots but 4k dmg is too much for me :)
HE kills SR and PR thats it...I dont like HE but he is best archer...


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