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SK is an offensive tank. that means he has many attack skills and also many debuffs (hex, poison, power break etc) and the lowest hp. so sk lvls very fast

TK has the lowest str -> patk, so lvling him is kinda boring, he also doesnt have so many attack skills. yea his shield defense rate is slightly higher cuz of 1 point higher dex

imo both sk & tk are welcomed at rb parties
for oly i would choose sk (debuffs, patk, drain ...) tk with his lolpatk isnt able to kill so many chars x_X


indeed tk sucks at pve but it's not so hard with a clan ....

i'd say tk is the best fighter that can enter oly :P i don't know why so many noobs think if he has a bit lower patk than others he can't kill anyone pfff ../ i saw tk pwning titan / glad / tyrant

in oly it's something like this :start with fb focus and make combo with drac bow focus , after ur hp got down to 30% use touch of life , now you got mega regen and healing cubics are way more effective while you got tol .... remember he has 3 UDS in that can make his hp full every time

SK in oly ? pff i think he can kill less classes than tk because he usually dies from most of the other fighters due low con


its not cause his CON but cause he lacks ability to heal himself like TK


and the low con

just say it ... go on ... u simply hate delves :'(
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SpidAp wrote:
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SK is an offensive tank. that means he has many attack skills and also many debuffs (hex, poison, power break etc) and the lowest hp. so sk lvls very fast

TK has the lowest str -> patk, so lvling him is kinda boring, he also doesnt have so many attack skills. yea his shield defense rate is slightly higher cuz of 1 point higher dex

imo both sk & tk are welcomed at rb parties
for oly i would choose sk (debuffs, patk, drain ...) tk with his lolpatk isnt able to kill so many chars x_X


indeed tk sucks at pve but it's not so hard with a clan ....

i'd say tk is the best fighter that can enter oly :P i don't know why so many noobs think if he has a bit lower patk than others he can't kill anyone pfff ../ i saw tk pwning titan / glad / tyrant

in oly it's something like this :start with fb focus and make combo with drac bow focus , after ur hp got down to 30% use touch of life , now you got mega regen and healing cubics are way more effective while you got tol .... remember he has 3 UDS in that can make his hp full every time

SK in oly ? pff i think he can kill less classes than tk because he usually dies from most of the other fighters due low con


its not cause his CON but cause he lacks ability to heal himself like TK


and the low con

just say it ... go on ... u simply hate delves :'(
Let the Shillien's wrath reduce you to ashes, infidels!


noo but i hate it when ppl favorise them for nothing tk is way better class than sk and that's it

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SK is an offensive tank. that means he has many attack skills and also many debuffs (hex, poison, power break etc) and the lowest hp. so sk lvls very fast

TK has the lowest str -> patk, so lvling him is kinda boring, he also doesnt have so many attack skills. yea his shield defense rate is slightly higher cuz of 1 point higher dex

imo both sk & tk are welcomed at rb parties
for oly i would choose sk (debuffs, patk, drain ...) tk with his lolpatk isnt able to kill so many chars x_X


indeed tk sucks at pve but it's not so hard with a clan ....

i'd say tk is the best fighter that can enter oly :P i don't know why so many noobs think if he has a bit lower patk than others he can't kill anyone pfff ../ i saw tk pwning titan / glad / tyrant

in oly it's something like this :start with fb focus and make combo with drac bow focus , after ur hp got down to 30% use touch of life , now you got mega regen and healing cubics are way more effective while you got tol .... remember he has 3 UDS in that can make his hp full every time

SK in oly ? pff i think he can kill less classes than tk because he usually dies from most of the other fighters due low con


its not cause his CON but cause he lacks ability to heal himself like TK


and the low con

just say it ... go on ... u simply hate delves :'(
Let the Shillien's wrath reduce you to ashes, infidels!


Dunno, but that's a fact, isn't it?

Ye, i admit that TK has higher chances, but i simply like SK (playstyle, appearance, skills, everything) more than TK :?

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I meant that he has the lowest CON lol... xd

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the guy asked who is better not who you like dumbass

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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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SK is an offensive tank. that means he has many attack skills and also many debuffs (hex, poison, power break etc) and the lowest hp. so sk lvls very fast

TK has the lowest str -> patk, so lvling him is kinda boring, he also doesnt have so many attack skills. yea his shield defense rate is slightly higher cuz of 1 point higher dex

imo both sk & tk are welcomed at rb parties
for oly i would choose sk (debuffs, patk, drain ...) tk with his lolpatk isnt able to kill so many chars x_X


indeed tk sucks at pve but it's not so hard with a clan ....

i'd say tk is the best fighter that can enter oly :P i don't know why so many noobs think if he has a bit lower patk than others he can't kill anyone pfff ../ i saw tk pwning titan / glad / tyrant

in oly it's something like this :start with fb focus and make combo with drac bow focus , after ur hp got down to 30% use touch of life , now you got mega regen and healing cubics are way more effective while you got tol .... remember he has 3 UDS in that can make his hp full every time

SK in oly ? pff i think he can kill less classes than tk because he usually dies from most of the other fighters due low con

//fail
u start the pvp with fb hp and when 25% of the max hp is dropped u change to ur fb focus

//fail2 wazawanker
every1 suggest the class he likes
who are u to say which 1 is better?u express ur opinion:the class u can play best and the class u like the most(in most cases its the prettymuch the same shit)


tk aint the favourite class cuz
a)elven males are ghay
b)even if u pick female TK doesnt have the best attacking abilities
sk has drain,hex+pb+ws,poison,smart at 79 cubics!
he also has 2 nukes-hp drain
1 freezing nuke
1 para+dmg nuke
hex+pb skills
infact the SK looks way more offensive oriented than the TK
anwyay it depends on both players skills

once i saw icarus killing OL in oly without losing a simple drop of CP
he didnt lethal
he just used wisely his skills and that hero OL got pwned hard


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the guy asked who is better not who you like dumbass

look at my post which u quoted at first, ok?
additionally, i can say which char i like whenever i want, do u get it?
there are 4 pages about that sk&tk thing, so i guess he was given an information he wanted
so stop flaming, my dear

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SpidAp wrote:
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the guy asked who is better not who you like dumbass

look at my post which u quoted at first, ok?
additionally, i can say which char i like whenever i want, do u get it?
there are 4 pages about that sk&tk thing, so i guess he was given an information he wanted
so stop flaming, my dear


well we gave him enought...he needs to decide with what character he'll play and that's it...!


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OKAY! People... Sk is more fit for pvp better than the tk is. Fact 1. That means there's no way that the tk will be better in pvp. MAYBE in tk vs sk because the sk won't exactly use drains since he's draining a tank and hex + power break might get reflected.

Vs a target with no mirror the sk is clearly ahead because of his debuffs. Vs a target without magic resistance passive, the sk can mentain his hp using drains. The tk will simply get a lame heal from his cubic, which has a bad firing rate.

Vs glad, the sk's performance is the best of all tanks. Touch of shilen means direct tod without any conditions -> cp down and a few buffs lifted. That's almost half of the damn gladiator's total longevity. When the sk is in 70% hp, he simply uses normal tod since it's time for more buffs to be removed.

All you wazawanga guys really think that the tk is better than the sk. Then question yourself this: why are there so many SKs and so few TKs?

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OKAY! People... Sk is more fit for pvp better than the tk is. Fact 1. That means there's no way that the tk will be better in pvp. MAYBE in tk vs sk because the sk won't exactly use drains since he's draining a tank and hex + power break might get reflected.

Vs a target with no mirror the sk is clearly ahead because of his debuffs. Vs a target without magic resistance passive, the sk can mentain his hp using drains. The tk will simply get a lame heal from his cubic, which has a bad firing rate.

Vs glad, the sk's performance is the best of all tanks. Touch of shilen means direct tod without any conditions -> cp down and a few buffs lifted. That's almost half of the damn gladiator's total longevity. When the sk is in 70% hp, he simply uses normal tod since it's time for more buffs to be removed.

All you wazawanga guys really think that the tk is better than the sk. Then question yourself this: why are there so many SKs and so few TKs?



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OKAY! People... Sk is more fit for pvp better than the tk is. Fact 1. That means there's no way that the tk will be better in pvp. MAYBE in tk vs sk because the sk won't exactly use drains since he's draining a tank and hex + power break might get reflected.

Vs a target with no mirror the sk is clearly ahead because of his debuffs. Vs a target without magic resistance passive, the sk can mentain his hp using drains. The tk will simply get a lame heal from his cubic, which has a bad firing rate.

Vs glad, the sk's performance is the best of all tanks. Touch of shilen means direct tod without any conditions -> cp down and a few buffs lifted. That's almost half of the damn gladiator's total longevity. When the sk is in 70% hp, he simply uses normal tod since it's time for more buffs to be removed.

All you wazawanga guys really think that the tk is better than the sk. Then question yourself this: why are there so many SKs and so few TKs?


tell me how many dmg you will deal to full S grade gladiator with that drain/life leech/vampiric cubic and how many HP you will suck from him this way...... i doubt its more then TK's heals. But i agree, SK > TK for pvp.

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Icarus wrote:
OKAY! People... Sk is more fit for pvp better than the tk is. Fact 1. That means there's no way that the tk will be better in pvp. MAYBE in tk vs sk because the sk won't exactly use drains since he's draining a tank and hex + power break might get reflected.

Vs a target with no mirror the sk is clearly ahead because of his debuffs. Vs a target without magic resistance passive, the sk can mentain his hp using drains. The tk will simply get a lame heal from his cubic, which has a bad firing rate.

Vs glad, the sk's performance is the best of all tanks. Touch of shilen means direct tod without any conditions -> cp down and a few buffs lifted. That's almost half of the damn gladiator's total longevity. When the sk is in 70% hp, he simply uses normal tod since it's time for more buffs to be removed.

All you wazawanga guys really think that the tk is better than the sk. Then question yourself this: why are there so many SKs and so few TKs?


there are not so many sk's and few tks you are dumb .... the cubic heal is not lame that's why you will never kill tk because he will have fullhp all the time

people just don't play tk because it's hard to lvl and it's not a char for noobs , you have to know how to play it to win

sk winning over a gladiator ? pffthaha even if u take all of his buffs you wont change the power of the skills , TOD takes around 1300 hp or smth like that so it will be so easy for the glad to win , while tk can keep his hp full by the end of the match and kill the gladi

vs mages sk is maybe the worst tank because he has low hp no shield stun.. only few nukes for mages to kill him .... TK is just imba because TOL ... damn heal goes full hp again and mages wont be able to kill him , even if they lower tk's hp he will ud and make again full hp with elemental heal+cubic

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thx, i readed enought about tanks, now i want to know a bit about gladiators, where to pve, is it hard, is it good class for pvp, how should i make aden in new server with glad ant how to pvp :)


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u could use search cuz im sure there is a few topics bout glad

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SK can easily beat Glad, Tyrant, Destro etc. Judgement rocks, also u have 2 or 3 UD.

TK is hard to lvl but it can be amazing at pvp. I was amused, i though it sucks hard, but it can kill destro glad Tyrant etc too. It can keep its hp up very well. Not offensive, char, but very tough. You just have to give it a try on a HR, and u will see it is not that bad :)

SK is very good too. My favourite tank, and im sure i would pick him instead of TK, but this is my personal choice.


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