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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:46 pm 
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I already have lvl 70 ES with BW(Light) and Dama*Dama.Idk what dye's to set on him?What set to use at lvl 61 and on lvl 76?What is the best weapon for ES dual sword,bow or dager and with what SA?

p.s. i hope to hear some pro-players with ES couse that is my first ES and i want to learn play with him


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:06 pm 
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Best for pvp: bw light or dc robe, mage sword with acu.
Best for lvling: bw light, +4 duals or dagger.

dye: +5wit +4con


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:10 pm 
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Kolondzso wrote:
Best for pvp: bw light or dc robe, mage sword with acu.
Best for lvling: bw light, +4 duals or dagger.

dye: +5wit +4con

...but with that dye and gear he will look like a mage...


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:20 pm 
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IvoR wrote:
Kolondzso wrote:
Best for pvp: bw light or dc robe, mage sword with acu.
Best for lvling: bw light, +4 duals or dagger.

dye: +5wit +4con

...but with that dye and gear he will look like a mage...

es and generally summoners are buffers/healers of the summon...
it's better to heal faster the summon than doing some dmg..mages' dmg with melee weapons is trivial....
I would go for -4 str +4con and -4men+4wit...
for equips: dc/tallum robe or bw light..Imo dc robe is the best choice if u can afford it and som/valhala/homu acu


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I think is better to use a light for es an genarally summoners...

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xxExecutionerxx wrote:
I think is better to use a light for es an genarally summoners...

it depends..
if u oppose a fighter better use bw light(more p.def)..if u oppose a nuker dc robe
anyway I would prefer dc robe at all times becauses it allows u to do faster heals


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Freelanc3r wrote:
xxExecutionerxx wrote:
I think is better to use a light for es an genarally summoners...

it depends..
if u oppose a fighter better use bw light(more p.def)..if u oppose a nuker dc robe
anyway I would prefer dc robe at all times becauses it allows u to do faster heals


u have a point there but i think that with a light armor u can also win a nuker...but with a robe u can't win a fighter

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xxExecutionerxx wrote:
Freelanc3r wrote:
xxExecutionerxx wrote:
I think is better to use a light for es an genarally summoners...

it depends..
if u oppose a fighter better use bw light(more p.def)..if u oppose a nuker dc robe
anyway I would prefer dc robe at all times becauses it allows u to do faster heals


u have a point there but i think that with a light armor u can also win a nuker...but with a robe u can't win a fighter

believe me u can..
also dc robe gives u +7 speed which can be helpful..and u have smaller chances to get interrupted too.


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Freelanc3r wrote:
xxExecutionerxx wrote:
Freelanc3r wrote:
xxExecutionerxx wrote:
I think is better to use a light for es an genarally summoners...

it depends..
if u oppose a fighter better use bw light(more p.def)..if u oppose a nuker dc robe
anyway I would prefer dc robe at all times becauses it allows u to do faster heals


u have a point there but i think that with a light armor u can also win a nuker...but with a robe u can't win a fighter

believe me u can..
also dc robe gives u +7 speed which can be helpful..and u have smaller chances to get interrupted too.


But...e.g vs a glady, u are dead with a single skill!!!

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 Post subject: Elemental summoner should wear robe
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:42 am 
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Weapon: SOM/AM + ACU // KESHA*DAM // ELYSIAN+HEALTH
Armor: BW Light/tallum robe/dc robe


In fact with DC robe it withstands fighters pretty well, transfer pain is pretty effective.

With light armor it will rarely win a pvp against mage. In pvp against mage, tallum is best, INT and m atack of the DC are of not too much use against them, besides it reduces m def. Against fighter, bw light is optimal, makes the summoner pretty much invincible up against any fighter except for archers and daggers (besides here if you use a Health SA weapon you are pretty much the tank ;D). But, to be sure, DC robe in general should be great up against any type of char in pvp and generally an Acumen SA weapon.

For exping, robe at all times and acumen weapon. Why not light armor? 'cause the summoner rarely gets hit during exping and the important thing is to heal the pet on time.

btw i have an elemental master lvl 77 ( on x3 server D: bloody sloooowwww rate)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:36 pm 
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I have to say that you can decrease int to summoners. Tried it. What about +4wit +4men -8int +4con -4str?. (+m.def, casting, life, cp, mana, -magic cancel rate + resist bleed, shock and all things). It may reduce p. atk, but ES is not based on this.


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juventus4ever wrote:
I have to say that you can decrease int to summoners. Tried it. What about +4wit +4men -8int +4con -4str?. (+m.def, casting, life, cp, mana, -magic cancel rate + resist bleed, shock and all things). It may reduce p. atk, but ES is not based on this.
I thing that is good idea.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:29 am 
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-4 Int / + 4 Wit
-4 Int / + 4 Men

The third Dye? -1 Int / +1 Wit or -4 Str / +4 Con

Don't try to act as a nuker, crap.
U can act as a DD (like me). Using Dual Kesh for Haste, and DC Light, for more Atk Spd and P Atk. It's VERY GOOD for PvE, also PVP.

Try to wear sets that will give a fast casting only to heal and heal ur summon would be the worst idea. A Light set to have a nice P Def against fighters (with Transfer Pain, u can win easily a fighter, u have warrior bane in third class too)

I don't know much about ES, bu I think the same stuff I use on my PS works.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:57 am 
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Vawned wrote:
-4 Int / + 4 Wit
-4 Int / + 4 Men

The third Dye? -1 Int / +1 Wit or -4 Str / +4 Con

Don't try to act as a nuker, crap.
U can act as a DD (like me). Using Dual Kesh for Haste, and DC Light, for more Atk Spd and P Atk. It's VERY GOOD for PvE, also PVP.

Try to wear sets that will give a fast casting only to heal and heal ur summon would be the worst idea. A Light set to have a nice P Def against fighters (with Transfer Pain, u can win easily a fighter, u have warrior bane in third class too)

I don't know much about ES, bu I think the same stuff I use on my PS works.


U said it, we get bane at lvl 76. That's why wearing a light set is not a good idea. You'll never get to heal your pet or yourself up against a nuker => that means you lose. Light set is only good for pvp against fighters. But wearing a robe you are better equipped against a nuker and besides still have the odds on your side when PVPing a fighter.

and for PVE it's kind of dumb making the summoner hit, especially if u have a -str +con dye... waste of shots. Would be better off playing like a pet healer in PVE. That way you're always full hp in case something comes up. And SA Haste weapon on a summoner... lol, Acumen or Health is THE choice (I've seen some use mana up but I haven't tried it myself).

If you can, try to make yourself a buffer on a separate account to buff the summon (focus and death whisper make the difference).


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:39 am 
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U said it, we get bane at lvl 76. That's why wearing a light set is not a good idea. You'll never get to heal your pet or yourself up against a nuker => that means you lose. Light set is only good for pvp against fighters. But wearing a robe you are better equipped against a nuker and besides still have the odds on your side when PVPing a fighter.

and for PVE it's kind of dumb making the summoner hit, especially if u have a -str +con dye... waste of shots. Would be better off playing like a pet healer in PVE. That way you're always full hp in case something comes up. And SA Haste weapon on a summoner... lol, Acumen or Health is THE choice (I've seen some use mana up but I haven't tried it myself).

If you can, try to make yourself a buffer on a separate account to buff the summon (focus and death whisper make the difference).


Before saying that act like as DD "it's kind of dumb". Try it. And I would never act as a DD if I use -4 STR. It's logical no one will hit if have -STR. My dyes are Wit/Men only. And READ before say something:
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Try to wear sets that will give a fast casting only to heal and heal ur summon would be the WORST idea


Acumen and health are only good in PVP, and just sometimes.


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