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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:25 pm 
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why use nm with vr as bonus when u can have vr from SE and +4% attack speed / +4% p.atk from dc set ^^ ?

1) becouse nm has better p def
2) becouse vr lvl 1 (from nm set) is perfect for pve with bison at ~30% hp without any healing
+ having SE as a buffer (just for vr) instead of a pp is lame



ok nm have more p.def but that doesent makes it better for pve .. i think 'killing faster' is much better when farming than more 'p.def' .. dont you ? ... +4%dmg /+4 a.speed ftw.... :P


dude u have some problems with foreign languages?
u need around 30% hp to use bison and zealot 24/7
u take 3% vr instead of 6% (vr1) and 12 omgf...
that way u keep ur hp high enough to use zealot lolomgwtf!with higher lvl of vamp u wont be able to do that
so u will farm slower omg aint it obvious?!4% atk spd and patk is almost nothing
each 100 atk spd will mean u get 4 atk spd bonus!


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Tallum gives 8% Atk. Spd and 2 STR.
Twice the Atk. spd DC gives and a bit more P.atk. Yes, 2 STR > 4% P.atk.
Also more P.def, even tho you have Light Armor Mastery you still don't have more than Heavy armor, probably even Blue Wolf Light(more def than A grades) has less P. def. With heavy armor the real loss is in Speed!


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fine !!! ...so tallum heavy is better than dc light but i still hate NM..stupid armor with no bonuses ... !! >.<


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i allways said that nm light is best, cause it's helps to lowen boxing people on servers...

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Wegotas wrote:
i allways said that nm light is best, cause it's helps to lowen boxing people on servers...


its not gonna lower boxing people on servers .. they will box pp instead of se ...


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FenixFera wrote:
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i allways said that nm light is best, cause it's helps to lowen boxing people on servers...


its not gonna lower boxing people on servers .. they will box pp instead of se ...


such people like me, prefering to use dyes+talismans+pots in order to avoid boxing. for me it's looks stupid after 15minutes to spend 5minutes for rebufing.... it's just looks stupid to take army of boxes to yours lovely place...

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its stupid to waste half of your time to search for a buffer to pt with .....
at first i was "pro no-box server" but now i just cant fight without :D


mmm i think the topic was somehing about armors on tyrant's :))


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FenixFera wrote:
fine !!! ...so tallum heavy is better than dc light but i still hate NM..stupid armor with no bonuses ... !! >.<


b4 talking please get a clue...

M. Def. +4%

Sleep and Hold Resistance +70%

Restores 3% of melee damage inflicted on the enemy to oneself

DEX +1
CON -1

i bet u have never tryed to farm with that setup and now u just talk ur ass out


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FenixFera wrote:
its stupid to waste half of your time to search for a buffer to pt with .....
at first i was "pro no-box server" but now i just cant fight without :D


mmm i think the topic was somehing about armors on tyrant's :))


who said that you need buffer? use pots...

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the only usefulness of nm light is VR effect nothing more
those resist pff you got passives and toogles if im not mistaken ( except for root :) )
also that + 4 % mdef is not much of a helper
you fight only mages ??
good go in tallum robe set ( biggest mdef with it )
you fight fighters al day long fine go IC set ( biggest pdef in the game with it )
you want to be like NFS car ??? fine go for a + dex light set and use wolf/rabbit all the time

you can have 24/7 30 % hp even with tallum heavy and vr buff if you got enough brains to think a way to stay at 30 % hp
zealot is a little harder to have 24/7

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the only usefulness of nm light is VR effect nothing more
those resist pff you got passives and toogles if im not mistaken ( except for root :) )
also that + 4 % mdef is not much of a helper
you fight only mages ??
good go in tallum robe set ( biggest mdef with it )
you fight fighters al day long fine go IC set ( biggest pdef in the game with it )
you want to be like NFS car ??? fine go for a + dex light set and use wolf/rabbit all the time

you can have 24/7 30 % hp even with tallum heavy and vr buff if you got enough brains to think a way to stay at 30 % hp
zealot is a little harder to have 24/7


just ... +1


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Sekkurel wrote:
the only usefulness of nm light is VR effect nothing more
those resist pff you got passives and toogles if im not mistaken ( except for root :) )
also that + 4 % mdef is not much of a helper
you fight only mages ??
good go in tallum robe set ( biggest mdef with it )
you fight fighters al day long fine go IC set ( biggest pdef in the game with it )
you want to be like NFS car ??? fine go for a + dex light set and use wolf/rabbit all the time

you can have 24/7 30 % hp even with tallum heavy and vr buff if you got enough brains to think a way to stay at 30 % hp
zealot is a little harder to have 24/7


yes u can get 2/3 mobs to hit u all the time and etc BUT mobs use skills wich means they rly may pwn u(like mobs that use stun or deadly blow type skills,nukes that may crit and anything else)

vr 4 with zealot and bison=10 secs->high hp

the root and sleep resistances are very usefull and 4% mdef is good enough!

no1 said that u wont use tallum heavy but as brael said and ive tryed nm light+ppbuffs=imba machine
do whatever u want


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B armor for tyrant?....


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for b grade try doom ( light )
or BW

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