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...macedonians talked in greece language, but greeks didn't understanded that...


Hahahaha :lol:

Macedonians language is 95% like Bulgarian. When I speak with some of them - It's like a village slang of Bulgarian Language. Even I don't need translation. When I go there is like my home.
Also their customs and History is almost the same as Bulgarian with some differences. That's 4 sho aka 100% truth!

Sorry dude, but greek and maybe lithuanian historics sux hard, and your education at school!


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FFS after all this you understood nothing? Macedonians were a Greek Tribe! Not a different nation. Ancient Macedonians have nothing nothing NOTHING to do with these facking liars who call themselves Macedonians (FYROM, Skopje!). And lol, you just proved that they are not Macedonians simply by saying that Bulgarian language is similar to theirs, simply because they are Slavic languages. Herodotus sucked as a historian? So, you are trying to say that such an issue existed during this period? My god, be serious please... Dude, every and I mean EVERY non-Greek/Bulgarian/FYROMian/Albanian historic source proves that Macedonia is Greek.

As we said 2348958298829643 and maybe more times... We don't facking care about the territory. We care about the history.

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Τι λεει ρε το ατομο! ΗΜΑΡΤΟΝ!

FFS after all this you understood nothing? Macedonians were a Greek Tribe! Not a different nation. Ancient Macedonians have nothing nothing NOTHING to do with these facking liars who call themselves Macedonians (FYROM, Skopje!). And lol, you just proved that they are not Macedonians simply by saying that Bulgarian language is similar to theirs, simply because they are Slavic languages. Herodotus sucked as a historian? So, you are trying to say that such an issue existed during this period? My god, be serious please... Dude, every and I mean EVERY non-Greek/Bulgarian/FYROMian/Albanian historic source proves that Macedonia is Greek.

As we said 2348958298829643 and maybe more times... We don't facking care about the territory. We care about the history.


FFS is your sick greek mother Retard and your History is a false


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Τι λεει ρε το ατομο! ΗΜΑΡΤΟΝ!

FFS after all this you understood nothing? Macedonians were a Greek Tribe! Not a different nation. Ancient Macedonians have nothing nothing NOTHING to do with these facking liars who call themselves Macedonians (FYROM, Skopje!). And lol, you just proved that they are not Macedonians simply by saying that Bulgarian language is similar to theirs, simply because they are Slavic languages. Herodotus sucked as a historian? So, you are trying to say that such an issue existed during this period? My god, be serious please... Dude, every and I mean EVERY non-Greek/Bulgarian/FYROMian/Albanian historic source proves that Macedonia is Greek.

As we said 2348958298829643 and maybe more times... We don't facking care about the territory. We care about the history.


FFS is your sick greek mother Retard and your History is a false


And you are stupid enough to start rl insults, just because you have no arguments.

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Who start 1st?

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Τι λεει ρε το ατομο! ΗΜΑΡΤΟΝ!

FFS after all this you understood nothing? Macedonians were a Greek Tribe! Not a different nation. Ancient Macedonians have nothing nothing NOTHING to do with these facking liars who call themselves Macedonians (FYROM, Skopje!). And lol, you just proved that they are not Macedonians simply by saying that Bulgarian language is similar to theirs, simply because they are Slavic languages. Herodotus sucked as a historian? So, you are trying to say that such an issue existed during this period? My god, be serious please... Dude, every and I mean EVERY non-Greek/Bulgarian/FYROMian/Albanian historic source proves that Macedonia is Greek.

As we said 2348958298829643 and maybe more times... We don't facking care about the territory. We care about the history.


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Who start 1st?

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Τι λεει ρε το ατομο! ΗΜΑΡΤΟΝ!

FFS after all this you understood nothing? Macedonians were a Greek Tribe! Not a different nation. Ancient Macedonians have nothing nothing NOTHING to do with these facking liars who call themselves Macedonians (FYROM, Skopje!). And lol, you just proved that they are not Macedonians simply by saying that Bulgarian language is similar to theirs, simply because they are Slavic languages. Herodotus sucked as a historian? So, you are trying to say that such an issue existed during this period? My god, be serious please... Dude, every and I mean EVERY non-Greek/Bulgarian/FYROMian/Albanian historic source proves that Macedonia is Greek.

As we said 2348958298829643 and maybe more times... We don't facking care about the territory. We care about the history.


FFS = For f*cks shake

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FFS = For f*cks shake


Ofcz, and who the f*ck are you to talk me like this?
Some brainwashed greek boy...

About my arguments - You remember that Greece was under Turkish control, aslo Bulgaria and etc. Is that mean they got some right over You and us, today?

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FFS = For f*cks shake


Ofcz, and who the f*ck are you to talk me like this?
Some brainwashed greek boy...

About my arguments - You remember that Greece was under Turkish control, aslo Bulgaria and etc. Is that mean they got some right over You and us, today?

No further questions


Still you have understood nothing.

Look here carefully, cause its the last time I'm gonna say it. The "Macedonian" issue is not about the territory of Macedonia. We, Greeks, do not care about the geographic parts of Macedonia that belong to FYROM, Bulgaria or Albania. Its about the fact that FYROMians claim themselves as descendants of Macedonians, meaning that Macedonian history is not part of the Greek one and was a different nation. This is not true, as you can clearly see from the previous posts of this topic.

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i've looked a little bit about macedonia... nowadays macedonians still have blood ralationship with greeks, but i wouldn't call them macedonians, they didn't saved their language. instead of that they taken almost everythink from slavians... it's assimilation, it's no more a nation...

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omfg answer me these f@cking questions if u say that OUR HISTORY SUCKS OMG
1)which country Create The Olympic games
2)if Alexander the Great wasn't greek why he spoke Ancient greek
3)Is that true that Aristotelis(GREEK) was teacher of Alexander??if yes in which language they were speaking??(bulgarian???LOOOOOOOOOOOL I DON'T THINK SO!!!)

answer the questions and tell us now if we BrainWashed or not

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i've looked a little bit about macedonia... nowadays macedonians still have blood ralationship with greeks, but i wouldn't call them macedonians, they didn't saved their language. instead of that they taken almost everythink from slavians... it's assimilation, it's no more a nation...


They never were Macedonians! They are Slavs who claim themselves as Macedonians. This little country you see on the map near Greece, Bulgaria and Albania with the name, Macedonia, is just ... not Macedonia. This country's name is Vardaska. Check some older maps and see yourself.

Macedonians were just a Greek tribe.

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And BTW The DEMOCRACY(ΔΗΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ) was created at greece too

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i've looked a little bit about macedonia... nowadays macedonians still have blood ralationship with greeks, but i wouldn't call them macedonians, they didn't saved their language. instead of that they taken almost everythink from slavians... it's assimilation, it's no more a nation...


They never were Macedonians! They are Slavs who claim themselves as Macedonians. This little country you see on the map near Greece, Bulgaria and Albania with the name, Macedonia, is just ... not Macedonia. This country's name is Vardaska. Check some older maps and see yourself.

Macedonians were just a Greek tribe.


well... then it's diferrent situation... it's nowhere written that they are slavs... i found that they assimillated by jugoslavian times to slavians....

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i've looked a little bit about macedonia... nowadays macedonians still have blood ralationship with greeks, but i wouldn't call them macedonians, they didn't saved their language. instead of that they taken almost everythink from slavians... it's assimilation, it's no more a nation...


They never were Macedonians! They are Slavs who claim themselves as Macedonians. This little country you see on the map near Greece, Bulgaria and Albania with the name, Macedonia, is just ... not Macedonia. This country's name is Vardaska. Check some older maps and see yourself.

Macedonians were just a Greek tribe.


well... then it's diferrent situation... it's nowhere written that they are slavs... i found that they assimillated by jugoslavian times to slavians....


Even if they are not Slavs, they are not Macedonians for sure. There is so much proof that shows that Macedonians were Greeks. If these people are Macedonians, then they are Greek too. There is not a Macedonian nationality.

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It's a shame that noone (Bulgarians/Fyromians) cares to seek the truth by himself...

If you want to really find out who Alexander was search the internet.
History Channel says Alexander was Greek.
National Geographic also.
His teacher was Greek.
His parents were Greek.
Their names are Greek.
His horse's name was Greek.
He took part at the Olympic Games (only Greeks allowed)
He worshiped the Greek gods.
He spoke the Greek language.
He thought him self as a descendant of Hercules.
His tomb sais MACEDONIA in GREEK (ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ)
The coins of Macedonia have GREEK names on them. (ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) (ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ)
Historians of his time say he was Greek.
He spread through his campain the GREEK culture.
The star of Vergina is a GREEK symbol.

ALL of these and many more you can find them also in museums around the world.

The Slavs of Fyrom , former known as VARDARSKA, are immigrants and occupied this area 5.000 years after ALEXANDER'S death.
Even the first FYROMIAN president said "We are Slavs , not Macedonians"

it's really a great shame for those people that try so hard to find some roots in their history even if that means stealing one from another nation...


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1st of all we have to clear something out once and for all.
we Greeks do not care about the Macedonian territory.

We know that:

Albania, FYROM and Bulgaria occupy parts of Macedonian region. = Fact.
Fyromians talk a Slavic dialect deriving from Bulgarian. = Fact.
Ancient Macedonian nation was actually a Greek nation. = Fact.
Slavs came in southern Balkans and occupied parts of Macedonia. = Fact.
Ever since 900 AD Slavs lived in parts of Macedonia. = Fact.
Slav tribes weren't anywhere near Balkans in Hellenistic era. = Fact.

Fyrom claims they are descendants of ancient Macedonians and of Alexander, claiming our ancient artifacts and symbols as their own.
Their newborn nation has no history and claims parts of our own history and Bulgarian history. We won't let them get away with this.
The name Macedonia resembles to Greek legends, glory and Greek pride.

In simple words. Macedonia as a territory belongs to many countries and
ethnicities. But ancient Macedonia was part of the Panhellenic empire and
later Byzantium. So, we won't let someone steal OUR name as their
country's name.

Fyrom suits them pretty well. Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia.
But Macedonia as a region. Not as cultural inheritage.
We don't care who has Macedonian grounds nowadays.
We care who uses a name that is combined with the history of our country.

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