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GoDs3nD
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mariosxx wrote:
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look u r aproximately stupid lame piece of shit
u get it aproximately?
6 is more than 5 so icarus is still inside the perimeter of possibilies
u open ur mouth too wide but u say no shit except general asstalking,flaming around and self-positioning as l2 god in the ranking

u juz keep discrediting urself..maybe 1 day u will realise that

ps:fatso?what are u then?if im fatso i bet my neck that u look like a horse
and thats the best u can find out to insult me?!sorry mate u just failed

Imo ...

a) You can't read and comprehend a post.
b) You make fun of yourself.. making yourself look like an idiot who can't
understand what someone says, so some idiot may think Icarus is right.

And one more proof that shows how dumb you are....
If max cancel was like 6 buffs why would they cap it on 5?Ofc you aren't smart enough to ask yourself that.... But it's ok.
Since you aren't smart enough to agree with someone who has proof
and you agree with someone who's your buttpal... I'll be here to make
fun of you both. Forevar fatso. <3


look butthurt boy
u rly think that u are the smartest guy ever and every1 should line up to u
dude u r wrong
why dont U go and tell the ncosft dudes what to do?
who the heck are u to answer a question of that sort(or to ask 1)
they decided and they did it-thats all!Why dont u go and ask some1 why u have negative IQ instead of positive as most of the ppl do..
why dont u ask why u have homo-sapiens has 2 legs instead of 15?

it is decided to be that way and it is

and still icarus said 6 wich is more than 5 so ur whole drama means nothing since u were looking for a simple way to drag icarus into another flamebox(and im pretty sure the purpose was to discredit him as a global mod...butthurt huh?)
too bad u failed hard again


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mariosxx
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Hmm why would I care who is global mod and who isn't?
I just don't like 3 kinds of people.
a) People who know shit and misinform others.
b) People who disagree without having valid grounds.
c) People who asslick a and b types of people.

And it seems to me you didn't even read Icarus posts before posting.
Icarus claims he played C4 and said the best cancel he ever got was 6.
And for the record, he is the one who disagreed with me...
So your dumb but funny accusations fall apart fatty...

And still I wonder, why don't you ask someone who played C4 to see the
truth. You don't believe me cuz u're butthurt, I know that. We all do lol.
But since you arse yourself to disagree, why don't you prove me wrong
by providing proof.[/url]

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mariosxx
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And ok. I got bored of this argument , so it's time to end it, is it not?

How many of you remember BnB server? Greek private and one of the
biggest. http://forum.bnb.gr/archive/index.php/t-25277.html

Quote:
den isxyei auto pou les. to orio twn 5 buffs mpainei sto C5.
sto C4 to cancel mporei na ta vgalei kai ola at once. Apla paizei me pososto.
Quote from ZastBanned, moderator of BnB C4 forums.

Rough translation: What you said ain't true, the 5 buff limit comes in c5.
In C4 cancel can remove even all your buffs at once. It goes with %.

You can ask Ruud to translate or use online translator. Either way, I win :*

PS: In same page someone points out he played in Lionna and used to get totally canceled all the time.

And from those who dont know...

Base cancel rate 0,6 +(Skill lvl + casters lvl vs target lvl and resist buffs)
On C4 cancel could remove from 0 to all buffs.
It was more like cancel versus each buff.
On c5+ it's the same , cancel vs each buff (mental nerfed) BUT difference
is that cancel removed UP TO 5 buffs, the 1st 5 more commonly...

I think I owned the thread :cry:

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From what i know, cancel didn't had a cap on c4. On c5 NC Soft put a cap to it.
I remember that sometimes i had even all buffs removed from cancel or more than 10 anyway. I don't know from what was influenced, i suppose from m. atk. The higher your m. atk, the higher your chances to remove more buffs with Cancellation. I think.


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mariosxx
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KentZ0ne wrote:
From what i know, cancel didn't had a cap on c4. On c5 NC Soft put a cap to it.
I remember that sometimes i had even all buffs removed from cancel or more than 10 anyway. I don't know from what was influenced, i suppose from m. atk. The higher your m. atk, the higher your chances to remove more buffs with Cancellation. I think.


Actually, cancel works the same way as it used.
I remember people canceling even w/o weapon so I guess m att
doesn't influence it... Or i think so that is, not sure.
It's like cancel vs target, if it suceeds it's cancel vs each buff.
I heard buff level also matters in cancel...means buffs gained at lower
level get mostly canceled by high lvl caster
For example.. lets say u got buffed in this order..

Cancel vs empower, cancel wins
Cancel vs acumen, cancel wins
Cancel vs zerk , cancel wins
Cancel vs conc, cancel loses
Cancel vs clarity, cancel loses
Cancel vs wind walk, cancel wins
Cancel vs bless shield, cancel wins
Cancel vs shield, cancel wins
Cancel vs greater shield, cancel loses
Cancel vs resist shock, cancel wins
Cancel vs Bless the body, cancel loses
Cancel vs Bless the soul, cancel wins

Lets say it went that way..
If server is C4, cancel will remove the 7 buffs mentioned.
If server is C5, cancel will remove max the 5 last mostly..

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Hmm why would I care who is global mod and who isn't?
I just don't like 3 kinds of people.
a) People who know shit and misinform others.
b) People who disagree without having valid grounds.
c) People who asslick a and b types of people


back off kiddo...
those criterias cover ur own persons info imo

u remember this u remember that
who cares what u remember?stop talking bullshit


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And it seems to me you didn't even read Icarus posts before posting.
Icarus claims he played C4 and said the best cancel he ever got was 6.
And for the record, he is the one who disagreed with me...
So your dumb but funny accusations fall apart fatty...


look mate ur problem is that u have 2 much testosteron in ur blood!
he said 6 that means he got 6
u say 10 so u got 10 he thinks that u r wrong
but u turn emo mode on and start like:"go ask"

i play l2 since c2 so i dont need to ask any1(dont blame urself...i rly think u have no idea about l2 so i wont ask u 4 sure)


and go ask mommy for a candy cuz u gona turn emo now for sure

@kent-u know i always thought that it has fixed land rate like trick
and has different amount of buffs deleted again by a static % scale

this is a big secret... :roll:


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On topic: love icarus, but i have to say paagrio all the way on tyrant.

That's all folks :)

Ps: mariosxx GTFO here. It's a shame some ppl actually get their info from pmfun forum and u are on to screw up all. If u wanna flame go ask Ym or whatever on pm and talk u'rs sh1t there. Really. Go play whatever suits u but not l2 or at least Shut Up-> half of u'r posts on forum are nonsense or just plain retarded, nopoint, off topic, flame.


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mariosxx wrote:
Find moar excuses like you always do Icarus, the only thing u r good at.
You forget the fact you always lose arguments lmao

And once again. About cancel on C4...
I said it used to cancel even 10 buffs and mostly more than 7 - 8...
YOU said the best cancel u got on C4 was 6 buffs at most and that prolly
server was altered. And i ask you again, since you obviously have no clue about the things you're arguing about, why don't you ask someone who played on C4 off files? Its the fastest thing to do.

All i can do for you is this :

SORCEROR/ARCHMAGE
Change Skills
- Slow: Duration has been reduced.
- Surrender to Fire: Increases slightly higher resistance to Water attacks.
- Surrender to Wind: Increases slightly higher resistance to Earth attacks.
- Cancel: Remove up to 5 buffs. The Cancel Resistance Effect is now available for Ultimate Defense, Ultimate Evasion, Touch of Life, Vengeance, and Lion Heart.
- Sleep: Base casting speed has been increased to 10s.

C5 patch notes, cancel reduced to max 5 buffs.
Means cancel removed more than 5 buffs, doesnt it? :>

Also, read this http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34095&highlight=Cancel&page=13
Read how people think about the C5 cancel nerf (up to 5 buffs)
Means it always did cancel more than 6 :>

If you still don't believe ask people who played C4.
I wont arse myself to find u C4 files lol, i doubt i can find anyway


if cancel remove up to 5 buff, doesn't it means that cancel can only remove between 1 to 5 buff?

i'm just curious


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GoDs3nD wrote:
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Hmm why would I care who is global mod and who isn't?
I just don't like 3 kinds of people.
a) People who know shit and misinform others.
b) People who disagree without having valid grounds.
c) People who asslick a and b types of people


back off kiddo...
those criterias cover ur own persons info imo

u remember this u remember that
who cares what u remember?stop talking bullshit


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And it seems to me you didn't even read Icarus posts before posting.
Icarus claims he played C4 and said the best cancel he ever got was 6.
And for the record, he is the one who disagreed with me...
So your dumb but funny accusations fall apart fatty...


look mate ur problem is that u have 2 much testosteron in ur blood!
he said 6 that means he got 6
u say 10 so u got 10 he thinks that u r wrong
but u turn emo mode on and start like:"go ask"

i play l2 since c2 so i dont need to ask any1(dont blame urself...i rly think u have no idea about l2 so i wont ask u 4 sure)


and go ask mommy for a candy cuz u gona turn emo now for sure

@kent-u know i always thought that it has fixed land rate like trick
and has different amount of buffs deleted again by a static % scale

this is a big secret... :roll:


why you are sooo stuborn and cant understand that IN THAT case he is wright? i have played c4 too in a lot of l2 free servers and i dont think that they all were bugged but there were times i remained with 2 buffs...taking away like 10


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weltall wrote:
if cancel remove up to 5 buff, doesn't it means that cancel can only remove between 1 to 5 buff?

i'm just curious

Yes. Cancel is capped to 5 buffs.
Means it may cancel from 1 to 5, yes.

Sextoy: My posts are nonsense prolly cuz you're too lazy to read. lol'd

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xristos92 wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
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Hmm why would I care who is global mod and who isn't?
I just don't like 3 kinds of people.
a) People who know shit and misinform others.
b) People who disagree without having valid grounds.
c) People who asslick a and b types of people


back off kiddo...
those criterias cover ur own persons info imo

u remember this u remember that
who cares what u remember?stop talking bullshit


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And it seems to me you didn't even read Icarus posts before posting.
Icarus claims he played C4 and said the best cancel he ever got was 6.
And for the record, he is the one who disagreed with me...
So your dumb but funny accusations fall apart fatty...


look mate ur problem is that u have 2 much testosteron in ur blood!
he said 6 that means he got 6
u say 10 so u got 10 he thinks that u r wrong
but u turn emo mode on and start like:"go ask"

i play l2 since c2 so i dont need to ask any1(dont blame urself...i rly think u have no idea about l2 so i wont ask u 4 sure)


and go ask mommy for a candy cuz u gona turn emo now for sure

@kent-u know i always thought that it has fixed land rate like trick
and has different amount of buffs deleted again by a static % scale

this is a big secret... :roll:


why you are sooo stuborn and cant understand that IN THAT case he is wright? i have played c4 too in a lot of l2 free servers and i dont think that they all were bugged but there were times i remained with 2 buffs...taking away like 10


u r the stubborn tsakpinis because u simply cant get it that different persons may experience different things in different situations
your words mean nothing to me
nor mariosux' posts do
privates=not off
that means anything u claim as right may be wrong

now go and ask from marios' mom a candy 2


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mariosxx wrote:
Find moar excuses like you always do Icarus, the only thing u r good at.
You forget the fact you always lose arguments lmao

And once again. About cancel on C4...
I said it used to cancel even 10 buffs and mostly more than 7 - 8...
YOU said the best cancel u got on C4 was 6 buffs at most and that prolly
server was altered. And i ask you again, since you obviously have no clue about the things you're arguing about, why don't you ask someone who played on C4 off files? Its the fastest thing to do.

All i can do for you is this :

SORCEROR/ARCHMAGE
Change Skills
- Slow: Duration has been reduced.
- Surrender to Fire: Increases slightly higher resistance to Water attacks.
- Surrender to Wind: Increases slightly higher resistance to Earth attacks.
- Cancel: Remove up to 5 buffs. The Cancel Resistance Effect is now available for Ultimate Defense, Ultimate Evasion, Touch of Life, Vengeance, and Lion Heart.
- Sleep: Base casting speed has been increased to 10s.

C5 patch notes, cancel reduced to max 5 buffs.
Means cancel removed more than 5 buffs, doesnt it? :>

Also, read this http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34095&highlight=Cancel&page=13
Read how people think about the C5 cancel nerf (up to 5 buffs)
Means it always did cancel more than 6 :>

If you still don't believe ask people who played C4.
I wont arse myself to find u C4 files lol, i doubt i can find anyway


... so you admit that u said something wrong in your early post? (orange color text)
or i'm the one that misunderstanding your post?

no offense..


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lol...

I said that Cancel on C4 could even remove all buffs.
On C5 that changed and max number of buffs cancel can remove = 5.

That orange text means: They capped it at 5. Since they capped it at five
buffs means that it used to cancel more than 5 buffs.

Quote:
C5 patch notes, cancel reduced to max 5 buffs.
Means cancel removed more than 5 buffs, doesnt it? :>


Removed = used to remove. Used to remove on C4
That's obvious since the chronicle before C5 was C4..
and all this argument is for C4 anyway lol..

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GoDs3nD wrote:
xristos92 wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
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Hmm why would I care who is global mod and who isn't?
I just don't like 3 kinds of people.
a) People who know shit and misinform others.
b) People who disagree without having valid grounds.
c) People who asslick a and b types of people


back off kiddo...
those criterias cover ur own persons info imo

u remember this u remember that
who cares what u remember?stop talking bullshit


Quote:
And it seems to me you didn't even read Icarus posts before posting.
Icarus claims he played C4 and said the best cancel he ever got was 6.
And for the record, he is the one who disagreed with me...
So your dumb but funny accusations fall apart fatty...


look mate ur problem is that u have 2 much testosteron in ur blood!
he said 6 that means he got 6
u say 10 so u got 10 he thinks that u r wrong
but u turn emo mode on and start like:"go ask"

i play l2 since c2 so i dont need to ask any1(dont blame urself...i rly think u have no idea about l2 so i wont ask u 4 sure)


and go ask mommy for a candy cuz u gona turn emo now for sure

@kent-u know i always thought that it has fixed land rate like trick
and has different amount of buffs deleted again by a static % scale

this is a big secret... :roll:


why you are sooo stuborn and cant understand that IN THAT case he is wright? i have played c4 too in a lot of l2 free servers and i dont think that they all were bugged but there were times i remained with 2 buffs...taking away like 10


u r the stubborn tsakpinis because u simply cant get it that different persons may experience different things in different situations
your words mean nothing to me
nor mariosux' posts do
privates=not off
that means anything u claim as right may be wrong

now go and ask from marios' mom a candy 2


what different experiences my dear noob? c4 is my favorite chronicle and i have played it more than every other and i cant stand an idiot telling me that the guy that was wrong is right....I bet that if Icarus said that it removes 10 buffs you would go with icaru's side so STFU and different your oppinion from him...Do you play in the same server? if yes i bet that you are his...how we say in english but in greek it is TSIROS






I didnt start flaming again but when i see idiot people i am geting nervous


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ow.. i see..
previously, i thought the second line is to support the first line
:D


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