Yea. Golden age of nukers.

Golden age of the sk too. Nukers and sk own everything in that chronicle. The poltergeist cubics lands all three debuffs from one land. And maybe I'm wrong, but in c4 I felt the vampiric cubic much more powerful.

I was SH in C4. Total ownage. If u have seen a flagged name u just sleep surrender nuke sleep nuke sleep nuke sleep nuke sleep nuke until invalid target ^^

Yes, sleep land rate was too high also. A sps could manage 4-5 targets provided they had no nm set or epics.

Sleep land rate was exactly the same as it is now.
Mental shield was more powerful back in C4 as well.

C4 era was Sps + sorc > all other classes easily 1 vs 1.
Cancel took away aprox 10 buffs, = big chance to get Mental away.
When mental was canceled was sleep + nuke.

Or sleep+cancel

Ou i saw my name here to be honest i didn`t realy saw everything writen here so its my bad. Actualy alot depends on the server and most of all the enchant rate. The bigger the enchant rate the more chances the SK has, as u all know tyrant skills depend very little on p.atack but they are realy deppendent on the p.def they face. So on a server with lets say +0/+6 enchant rate the tyrant has more chances to win. On the high rate pvp serevrs with +50/+100 the SK would be maybe the better choise

Btw icarus is known more to be a AW expert so i think that would be the better match i wont hide it i`m also curious about the result. But some1 saud that AW is not meant to kill TY i`ll have to agree with him, so it would be an unfair fight... i haven`t played in 3 mounts so i`m a bit rusty

And another btw Male kamael berserker and SBs are very capable of beating almost everything including tyrants u know snobish g4ys are my new pasion , i can play kamaels too

THs for me are the hardest dggers to kills not the HP is importent but the mirage skill. Tyrant in bison+zealot hiting on a th with mirage is 100% sure to loose target u gotta retarget again, the TH has switch + trick actualy its prety easy for a good TH to kill a tyrant only with mirage+trick+swith and deadly blow maybe as an ofensive skills, thou its only a theory i retarget realy fast and VS TH never use bison

paagrio as far as i know mirage doesnt del ur target with probability of 100%
maybe smth is wrong with the serv?

I invite you to check again.
Cancel took away 10 buffs? Are you sure you played on official leaked files? Sleep was much more powerful, a sleep back then was almost sure. Right now even w/o resist it's not sure. The best cancel I got took 6 buffs away.


Btw: Do you have any idea about the current mental aegis rate?

@Paagrio: why shouldn't you use bison vs th?

there are many serers that cancel takes away almost all buffs leaveing only 2-3 :S

also why you dont use bison...i didnt got it...

Still talking out of your ass?
Since you're the same blockhead as always I can prove you wrong once more.

1st of all, Sleep is as strong as it used to be. Nothing changed.
Nothing mentioned in patch notes about sleep power/success rate.
= you're wrong (as always)

2nd, 43. The effect of Mental Shield has decreased
From C5 patch notes. Check it yourself. http://www.lineage2.com/news/chronicle5_04.html

3rd, About cancel. Cancel used to remove more than 6-7 buffs each time.
Most commonly 8-9 buffs. You never played C4 imo. Go ask people who
played Dragon network/ Paradise / DR.
All those server used leaked off files.

And stop talking out of your ass.

PS: What does the currect mental aegis have to do with C4 cancel or
mental shield nerf on C5 +? You make no sense.

PS2: I have EE on Interlude midrate, and C5 low and mid rates.
I trust i know better than you. And sleep lands 1/3 on an S grade
CH buffed nuker by A/S grade CH buffed EE.

I never said it's not written. Have you played any hellbound or newer server recently? Sleep in c4 was close to 100% land without any mental aegis. Right not sleep isn't as certain as it used to be. Again, I invite you to try it.


Oh really? Point out c4 files then. I'm gonna test it myself to prove it.
And don't dare to say I never played c4, because frankly I played both l2p (from mid-c4 until it closed) and dragon network. Played l2a and l2x too, which were the deadly-three servers along with l2p as people were saying back then.


Are you stupid or something? It was a pure question you moron. That once again proves that you don't want to think two times and you would flame (especially me) without hesitation. That being said, revise your behaviour.


Ch buffes w/o mental aegis. Trust me.
Oh, and you forgot to mention which server you're playing in. Interlude dex wasn't bugfree either you know.

You're the same brickhead as always.
Prolly u didnt reach high lvl to have wars on C4 server and didn't
really test.. Or you're talking out of your ass again.
I have played Deviant Realms and L2P, on L2p I had A grade Sps.
So once again, I know better than you...

And also, your personal observation > skill logs changes or what?
If there's a change in a skill, they point it out. Simple as that.
They didn't point it out = no change.
And sleep on C4 wasn't 100% either rofl

And Mental Aegis is same buff as mental shield isn't it?
I mean mental shield in different name.
Clan hall gives mental... And i meant 1/3 with it ofc rofl
Don't tell me u didnt know CH gives mental XD

Edit: Btw some time ago we argued about trick etc right?
You said (along with some buttpal) that mental shield doesn't protect
against trick/switch/bluff derangement effect or something.
And you asked me to prove that Derangement is mental attack....
Not 100% sure but in any case, here's proof...

9. The attacks for the skills below have been added.
*
Holy Strike, Disrupt Undead, Might of Heaven – Sacred Attacks
*
Horror, Lure, Switch, Trick, Forget, Peace – Mental Attacks
Here -->http://www.lineage2.com/news/chronicle5_04.html

Cuz some people dont talk out of their ass

Careful, you're starting to say the same things.




L2p eureka 73 sps. Aurora 78 st, 75 bh. Genesis 78 gh, 78 pr sub, 78 titan sub, 77 necro, 76 bh (never bothered for 3rd, since it wasn't worth it). The sps was made in c3 period.
L2a 78 sd, 78 sm sub (imba cata soloer), 74 bh.
L2x tempest, 78 gh, 78 st sub, 67 necro sub, 77 fortune seeker (already had ketra ally 3 done). Kastien 75 sps, 78 gh, 78 st sub, 78 dc sub and a 53 bd which I couldn't finish because the server went down for good.
Dn 7x 78 st, 77 bish sub. 200x (or 300x? don't remember), shitloads of characters to test.

So don't tell me I don't know c4, boy. You were dreaming of the experience I had back in c4.

And yes, I dare to say that they must have missed that in their logs, or the c4 files which were supposedly fully leaked had this bug.
Don't worry, unlike you I have a clan on each server I play so I think I have a good picture of the ch buffs.

About the trick thing, go ahead and remember because you seem to be losing this argument. I never tested it with mental, it's true. What, you gonna kill me for that? Grow up. If you wanted to say something like that you could have pmed me, I don't see any problem in giving me proof that I was wrong. I simply didn't know, I admit, thus doing something you will never do! I don't think there's a person who knows everything in this game.

what the fuck is this cockfight?
are u insane doods?
marios-->talking bullshit that u r l2god..ye.. u havent changed at all
saying that u know better=nothing to me,icarus(for sure) and any1 else except ur fanboys..i can say that im the allmighty lord
would any1 believe me?
icarus-->playing the old game by his rules..quit or change the rules imo


and please keep in mind no matter how good and megapro imba wtf haxorez are l2guru guys THEY MAY BE WRONG
so using blah everytime u want a proof sux kinda
imo u better both bsoe this flame cuz it smells like rotten eggs imo............