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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:32 pm 
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its all right
just keep in mind-->dont give up from the very first moment!
sws is lazy lvler as i said
stick to ur friends and convince ur clanmates to take u in every pt no matter its farming or exping pt

back in c4 i wanted to make a sws at a x4 serv
lvled till 46 and i decided that i cant take this anymore


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:05 pm 
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Azurel2 wrote:
Hi, i am pally and will almost choose first sub
i dont have a lot of adena so i will choose sws
pls tell me anythink about sws, his tactics, pvp, pve or advice me better sub:P

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:11 pm 
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can u tell me anythink about singing:P i dont know nothink about this
how must sing if u are with bd and what are this styles ddsds...


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Every song/dance on yourself means an additional +30mp consume on your original 60.
So for example if there's dance of fire/fury and song of hunter the next song will cost 150mp. This means you and the bd have to combine somehow the dances and songs, like 2dance/1song/1dance/1song.... if you can, try to make the bd's mp consumption low, because she/he can use skills that is way better than what sws has.

And y, forget pvp with sws, even bd will be better than you. The only good thing you're good at that you can easily escape with imba speed you have.


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Lhyno wrote:
Every song/dance on yourself means an additional +30mp consume on your original 60.
So for example if there's dance of fire/fury and song of hunter the next song will cost 150mp. This means you and the bd have to combine somehow the dances and songs, like 2dance/1song/1dance/1song.... if you can, try to make the bd's mp consumption low, because she/he can use skills that is way better than what sws has.

And y, forget pvp with sws, even bd will be better than you. The only good thing you're good at that you can easily escape with imba speed you have.


+1 to d/s order

Sws has almost the same skills as bd. Arrest, slow, psycho symphony(BD has a similari skill wih different name) and UD.
He also has song of silence and heal, which can be usefull at small pvp, while BD has hex, power break.

Sws is not bad at pvp. He performs fine against archers, perfectly against mages, sux against gladi/destro, good against daggers, summoners, other assistants and tanks.

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and how make songs like song of vitality, them dont go down for second and u have them for non-stop w/o more mp consumpation


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enchant skils for +time and dont use much songs .. i use hunter+earth+warding

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If you want enchant songs, enchant them for cost, don't matter if you will song after 2 or 2,5 minutes. If you use Vitality, enchant it for +time and give it 1st.

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the sws needs to dance in combo with a bd ( in party ) so if he enchants for time his songs will remain while the bds will fade away making him redance and consume more mana

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lol the bd enchants for time 2


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and if you party with a non enchanted skill bd ??? oh yeah you fuck either your mana or his

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You MUST enchant for Cost, ALWAYS.
For Time, the BD in your party must have the same enchant value on his dances.

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Vawned wrote:
You MUST enchant for Cost, ALWAYS.
For Time, the BD in your party must have the same enchant value on his dances.


+1

I HATE when I have to w8 for all the dance and songs to reuse 'em -.-
It's rly a big problem at pve. Only song of vitality worth it.

Oh and I forgot, with bd+sws or even only with bd, Always use fury first.


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Lhyno wrote:
+1

I HATE when I have to w8 for all the dance and songs to reuse 'em -.-
It's rly a big problem at pve. Only song of vitality worth it.

Oh and I forgot, with bd+sws or even only with bd, Always use fury first.

Yes, I always thought that Time would be better, but I learned with SirAdrian.
And ofc, just Song of Vitality goes for +Time.

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lemme explain my point
if u sing,dance often u spend mana often
there is big diff between spending 60 mana per 2 min or per 3 min for example

IMO cost is not bad at all BUT IMO duration is kinda...long term enchantment
it will also help u during oly fight(u love resinging/dancing during the fight?ORLY?!)

the goal is to find a bd that has enough brains/bogs
and everything is gona be perfect


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