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dagger are suck in mass pvp,I believe he cant even stand against 2 fighterclass...
try titan,mass pvp is not a problem...earthquake then wrath,then switch to 2 handed weapon...
every mages are good at mas pvp,but they have to keep their range,if arcer's target them,they're dead...

well,that's my opinions,if someone doesn't agree,please let me know...
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HOLD IT HOLD IT!!! first issue, all the ideas are mixed up!!! let's be organized.
mass pvp means a certain number of players. is it about 2vs2, 30vs30 or 100vs100? let's get some facts and some circumstances right.

we'll asume fight is at least one full party for every side.

i for one consider mass pvp something close to raiding. U need tanks, dd and supports. maybe we can skip the tank thing but i think they still have their place in pvp. so no coments here. u are left with dd and suports, and i belive both groups are indispenceble in any kind of fight.

best suports are bish, bd, sws, ol, wc, se, ee ( i left out pp, i consider him useless). pick any one of these classes and there u have a good support for mass pvp!!!

for a dd u got mages, melee fighters, archers... every one has a usefull skill in pvp even a fuckin spoiler or a wl!!! wl has a mas stun, spoiler can be a good trickster, hake death and then jump from nowhere... mages can be nukers or debuffers and both are good...

so the question remains what do u want to be in a mass pvp? a goal-getter or a goal-keeper? u decide
i for example consider he, or th or sps a good char in pvp, but i dont like their style so... i wont play with them!!!

ok so lets get some things straight
first if you go ith your clan you can take the OL if not hes useless
second the tank can easily be replaced by bd/sws which full buffed have good pdef and shield def rate and also there role will me mostly that of distracting the enemy

now lets talk about dds
fisrt melee : daggers if they kno there class ell and in full buff they are unstoppable they will first target healer and seeing about 5 daggers rushing toards you you will do what ??? oh yeah run or atleast move and that means the daggers start to act they start killing all that has a backshowned to them
destros tyrant glad wl spoiler well thses guys are for endurenace pvp ( the guy with the most hp wins lolz ) not much to say about these guys if glady tyrant crit the enemy is either half dead or already dead same goes for destro in frenzy the wl is more of a distraction ( stunning and shit )

range classes : archers well these guys are the easiest to play assist shoot gf not much to do there same goes for mages only they will sometimes debuff or use vortex

so this my opinion of pvp calsses in mass pvp ( more then 1 party vs 1 party thats not mass pvp thats just a bunch of guys killing eachother )

i totally disagree with you here...a tank roll in mass pvp is to agro enemy's and bd/sws cant from 3 reasons: 1.they dont hav high lvl agresion skill 2.they will not waste mana on other skills besides dances/songs 3.they must survive how much they can becuz dds need non-stop dance/song.......

You'd be surprised what a well organised dagger gank can do in a siege. Just step on offroad with lots of valleys. And if you see the running enemies suddenly come back against you, turn back or you'll die.

I used this strategy many times. As I played retail, I sometimes led dagger parties. I remember that one day I suggested combining each dagger party with 1-2 warlords. The effects were devastating. An enemy that gets stunned or that can't run is the perfect prey for a dagger.

Not to mention that inside the dagger is inexpandable. Artefact room: they're grouped to guard the caster. Push in a few warlords and some daggers. See them get chopped right before your eyes. Seen this at work.
The warlord-dagger combination is one of the most efficient for controlling masses in short amounts of time. But ofc, you'll push all your troops in, not just your daggers like lambs to the slaughter.

w/o Healers Icarus?

Till WL come to close range they can be nuked to hell.

They don't need stun resist if they can nuke at 600 range.
And don't forget slow. If there's 2~3 SH at the other side, the WL will never reach the spot.

sorc FTW just look at blazing circle

+1 and they have single type attack not like WLs :P
Though buffs are rly in need.
A bishop+tank with aura hate with 'em can't be a bad idea.

i think that icarus pointed on AoE STUNS, not damage of warlord........

Anyawy, a WL doesnt have to runup close, just send a Shockblast and watch daggers to do the rest............ (shockblast = aoe damage, stun, p def and m def - 30% and range 500)

but dagger have low def.if mages targeted them,they'll dead in instant