Our clan pvp vid from L2 Abyss. http://files.filefront.com/AMMAZONS+Rev ... einfo.html

/enjoy and don't flame here pls. Just constructive critics, thx.

which server ?

abyss x7

Sry alex, cant say anything cos u asked for no flames, u can see my thought on abyss forum

Not bad content but still there are many things i would like to comment.

Titan/Titan/Sagi/GS/PR/SM/BD/CoV/Cardi(with Salvation) and Domi (probably w/o ally cov)/BD/Bish.

1'st, we take buffs. IMO Earth Chant>War Chant on PvP but you didn't had problems with so enemies. If you singed renewal, then i don't see the use of Concentration Dance. Dance of warrior woulded be better. Or if SM was 78 he coulded give 4 songs(champion) and let BD to give only 2.
You didn't had wk. wk>any other DD in party. You didn't had a 2'nd healer, an EE woulded be recommended. Atleast that cardi had salvation from what i've seen.
Party isn't arranged (DD's last). An archer shoulded be MA because you had 3 archers in pt and assist resolve all problems. Ofc Titans don't need to assist but archers do.
I didn't liked that party wasn't grouped. Muccinka who was PL had dances/songs all the time but i doubt that all party members got disco.
Anyway enemies were much more all over the map, not grouped.
And it's a common sense to kite destroes and to kill OL's/healers and after that destroes/archers but they totally played another game.
I saw many A grades/B grades on Wolfmoons wich answer pretty much on this: Destro hitted for 10-12k w/o CoV/AQ/Baium/Bless3.
About pvp style. That Titan don't use CP pots too many wich is a bad thing to stay with 10% of your cp for more than 2minutes. Support classes should pay more attention on trances/dreaming spirits. At middle of pvp you didn't had CoV or you decided not to give it anymore wich is not a wise decision.
Less or more, i didn't get bored. GL to your next movies.

We rolled them anyway. We had second healer, but out of party. Conc>Warrior in PVP, use of war chant is weird, but did you see many deaths of us due too bad p.def? They had COV all the time, Imho, maybe tell me exact minute in vide, where they don't have it. Pupava tried to trance, but enemies were down faster. About Cp pots I can't agree, destros have Cp spam on every attack macro and Hlpupinek was spaming CP heal too. there wasn't wlk, because I wasn't at home and they didn't have human to log me, that's why there wasn't one more DD or WLk as 9th in a party.

BTW Hloupinek had triple box logged.

For healers concentration dance or renewal is enough. No need for both.
I know they had both healers but not in the same pt. And i don't know if they were on TS/Vent to announce fast "res me; res me".
I said, that even though they had war chant instead of earth chant they didn't had problems with enemies.
They didn't had cov between this time: 06:37 - 08:20.
About trances, I wasn't refering that bishop/cov'er didn't used trance/dreaming spirit/mana storm. I was refering that a little more attention on all supports was needed, to use walking scrolls on all sleeped party members at the right time.
About CP's. I don't agree. He had full cp when pvp started and at the end.

I can see it now. it was hard hour. All healers dead, Cover too. But they killed all and then waited with Cov to next part of battle.

Yeah ofc u rolled them, no discussion there. But the thing is I like fast and smashing pvp, mainly daggers or nukers. I dont like /attack classes like destro or archer. I like destro to farm and pvp in closed places vs meeles. U wanted to assault WM's CH but destros arent the best for that imo xD Just dont worry, Im not so butthurt as 80% of abyss guys that flammed hard just cos it was destro and it omgwtfpwnd noobs with 10k hits.

I remember them. "OMG frenzy, LOL frenzy and epic: WITHOUT FRENZY YOU ARE NOTHING, FUKING NOOB"

We didn't want to take it, we couldn't, cause we were lords of bandit stronghold and we had to w8, if someone will reg to attack us, so we didnt be so fast to kill their CH RB.

I know that destros aren't best for open-air PvP, but we weren't clan with 30+ ppl and able to build full archer party in that times, but I think that destros made, what they should. And it was change after all that fullbuffed pvp vids full of archers,daggers and nukers. It was something new, wasn't it?

not exactly new, well, maybe in some way, but..meh

What's so great about destroes on pvp? I bet that if i'll have an archer pt i can kill not one but 2 destro full pties.

Matters on situation. Many people are trying to kill healers first and if destro will gain chance to get near enemy, it's crit > next target.