I think the best AW > the best TH for sure

which server they play??? offi teon??

GUSTAVS FTWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly... They're forgetting that statistically, aw>th in pvp. Why should a higher grade of experience change this? On the contrary, it won't because it can become a non-back blows fight, and here the aw has a net advantage of almost 100% blow land rate, while the th is stuck at 50% (also 65% for 10 seconds).

icarus i //disagree
all classes are ment to be equal
for example:th>aw
and aw>th
pp>wc
wc>aw
and so on
it all comes up to this word : DEPENDS

that depends word is actually the luck factor
if you remove it aw > th anyday

The thing is that you can't remove it

That's in certain fields. In gank, th>aw. Not in pvp.

i know you cant remove it
thast why pvp is unpredictable
you wont know when a skill will crit or you will ge lethal and the list goes on
but if you take the theoretical strengh of a char ( his skill power stats etc ) then is certain that aw > th
aw has hex ( lower pdef bigger dmg from blows ) has a way bigger land rate and also the dmg is way better
the only thing the th has trhat aw doesnt is the fact that he plays with targets ( has about 4 skills that can remove target while aw has 2 )

Icarus aw blow land rate cant be almost 100%. On all the sv`s I played I got aw and I missed kinda lots of blows. I know it,I did it,so believe me

maybe he means that the blow landing rate FROM BEHIND is ~100
cuz as far as i know its enhanced

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Base blow land is around 45%. Focus death is +60%, mortal strike is around +40%. Those combined are +100%. 45% times two is 90%. Assassination is said to give 5-7% success. 90% + 6% avg is 96%. From behind the land rate is capped at 99%.

That is at lvl 78, devil, not at inferior levels. Just don't forget focus death and mortal strike buffs okay?

pride of the camael gives "mortal blow type " skills succes

What's your point? It can't be increased further than 99%.
You can have a clue about that when enchanting skills too, backstab sais 99% land for example. And really, it happens from time to time to miss a backstab I shouldn't be missing.

Gustavs is the best TH i ever saw in my life...and about dvp...well he's the CP pot master(uses them even if he has full CP) and 70% of his videos, he pvps A grade dudes that don't even know you can use your keyboard to use the skills on the bar. And kagan plays like dvp when we talk about TH.