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yes u loose too much hp and anyway if u drop ur hp so much( i dont wana do the math atm) u will have hp simillar to the prs...

about IC set.. pff imo its stupidity cuz u dont have masteryes for it.. that means -stats for u -2 dex=even lower dex +2str not so bad...anyway im not the best HE in the world so this is just my opinion.. hmm compare ur IC set with the MJs 8% archery... ur p atk simply pwnz..


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I didnt want to open a new thread so i write in this one. I'd appreciate an oppinion about lowering an SR CON with -9 and raising the DEX +5 and STR +4, and another oppinion with the armor set, would you go with Draconic or Majestic Light? I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


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seth wrote:
I didnt want to open a new thread so i write in this one. I'd appreciate an oppinion about lowering an SR CON with -9 and raising the DEX +5 and STR +4, and another oppinion with the armor set, would you go with Draconic or Majestic Light? I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


Do not increase your DEX. It doesn't woth it, it is high enough any way. I think you should try majestic heavy ot tallum heavy. Majestic heavy gives u 8% P.atk and 50% stun resist, so i think it is good. Maja light gives the same bonus.


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seth wrote:
I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


Well, somewhere here i read a post that says maj stun resist increase the char's base stun resistance with 50%. That means its not 50% chance to get stunned, instead its the stun resistance from CON x1,5. If human chars have 43 con, and it gives 43% stun resist, then in maj set they'll have 64% chance to resist stun attacks.
But from the other side, look at stun skills' success rate.. the damaging type stuns have 50% (hammer crush, stun shot..) or 40% (armor crush&shock blast), the % resistance applies for these normally. But human tanks' shield stun has 80% land rate basically, its too high, majestic sets still suck it in 3/1 or even 2/1 rate... and i always were in the /1 part :( . Up to ur luck.

P.S. before u craft the whole set, take any heavy armor+gaiters on for a moment, and look at ur speed, because in gracia2 or hellbound, archers seem to get penalty for wearing heavy armor (at last).

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I've tryed the tallum heavy, the attack speed is impressive, i dont know about the evasion in pvp. Right now i have draconic armor, i was just wondering if it's the best for a SR or should i change it to other. And if i shouldnt raise the DEX, what dyes would you suggest? I was thinking about raising more DEX and balancing the other stats with majestic light for the patack and stun. Thanks for the replys btw.


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seth wrote:
I didnt want to open a new thread so i write in this one. I'd appreciate an oppinion about lowering an SR CON with -9 and raising the DEX +5 and STR +4, and another oppinion with the armor set, would you go with Draconic or Majestic Light? I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


Do not increase your DEX. It doesn't woth it, it is high enough any way. I think you should try majestic heavy ot tallum heavy. Majestic heavy gives u 8% P.atk and 50% stun resist, so i think it is good. Maja light gives the same bonus.



Interesting, i wasnt thinking about majestic heavy. So what would you suggest Shalana, use heavy instead of light and raise STR?


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seth wrote:
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seth wrote:
I didnt want to open a new thread so i write in this one. I'd appreciate an oppinion about lowering an SR CON with -9 and raising the DEX +5 and STR +4, and another oppinion with the armor set, would you go with Draconic or Majestic Light? I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


Do not increase your DEX. It doesn't woth it, it is high enough any way. I think you should try majestic heavy ot tallum heavy. Majestic heavy gives u 8% P.atk and 50% stun resist, so i think it is good. Maja light gives the same bonus.



Interesting, i wasnt thinking about majestic heavy. So what would you suggest Shalana, use heavy instead of light and raise STR?


Well light armor mastery gives no evasion for u. (I thoght it does, but now i see that it is not true) So i think heavy armor is much more useful, if it gives a beter bonus.
And Maja heavy gives the same bonus as the light, excpt for the stats. Maja gives 2 str and takes 2 con, but increase your stun resist. I think u should put +5 WiT and -5 int only, because your fighter stats are balanced i think.

If u use tallum heavy set i prefer to use +4 CoN -4 str.


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Shalana wrote:
seth wrote:
I didnt want to open a new thread so i write in this one. I'd appreciate an oppinion about lowering an SR CON with -9 and raising the DEX +5 and STR +4, and another oppinion with the armor set, would you go with Draconic or Majestic Light? I dont believe in the success of the "tank archers" therefore i always dropped HP and played glass cannon style but im more worried about the stun resist that's why i'd go for Majestic. Do you think that the dropp of CON would be balanced by the +50% stun resist? Thanks guys.


Do not increase your DEX. It doesn't woth it, it is high enough any way. I think you should try majestic heavy ot tallum heavy. Majestic heavy gives u 8% P.atk and 50% stun resist, so i think it is good. Maja light gives the same bonus.



Interesting, i wasnt thinking about majestic heavy. So what would you suggest Shalana, use heavy instead of light and raise STR?


Well light armor mastery gives no evasion for u. (I thoght it does, but now i see that it is not true) So i think heavy armor is much more useful, if it gives a beter bonus.
And Maja heavy gives the same bonus as the light, excpt for the stats. Maja gives 2 str and takes 2 con, but increase your stun resist. I think u should put +5 WiT and -5 int only, because your fighter stats are balanced i think.

If u use tallum heavy set i prefer to use +4 CoN -4 str.


u hav better evasion/speed with light armors than heavy so u thought wrong shalana....only on l2j it happens to hav the same evasion/speed(this is real fact)

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use light armors in pvp and +5 str-5 con or +5dex-5con....dont raise ur con it will not help u in pvp...if u know how to spam cp pots u can drop ur con even more

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use light armors in pvp and +5 str-5 con or +5dex-5con....dont raise ur con it will not help u in pvp...if u know how to spam cp pots u can drop ur con even more


those dyes do not apply to ghost hunter, he has and so low health...

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nonelikeme wrote:
use light armors in pvp and +5 str-5 con or +5dex-5con....dont raise ur con it will not help u in pvp...if u know how to spam cp pots u can drop ur con even more


Ok, but with -10CON, what would fit more, Draconic or Majestic light?


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i said +5str-5con or +5dex-5con not both cuz is imposible to put both..u choose one setup..and i would choose draconic

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Nonelikeme, a light armor will grant you some evasion. But it won't grant you any extra speed or anything else. It will get you some more pdef.

Don't rely on evasion for archers imo... Their eva isn't that high like the daggers'.

I have seen many SRs using tallum heavy. But ofc, draconic is above all these.


About dyes, I'd only use -con on hawkeye to give him a nice boost. Not on sr/pw, no way. At least not for single pvp.
For mass pvp, +5 str -5 con is always a good option because frankly if you get MA you're gonna die anyway. So it's better to avoid ma and do more damage. A pr with +5 str and deadeye is the killer in mass pvp. I've actually seen valuable ghost sentinels carrying a plated leather set with them. When it comes to the mass pvp itself, pl does everything. +4 str is imba. When it comes to frontal, switch to draconic.

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I really don't understand which skill gives more evasion to SR if he wears light armor. Maybe i should test it, because at light armor mastery it only says, that it increase P.def.


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Armor mastery and light armor mastery.

Every fighter class has armor mastery. That means that when they equip light armor, they get evasion. When they equip robes, they get mp regen. Light armor mastery only sais that in its inferior levels (first levels). It sais increases pdef and evasion when wearing light armor. From a certain level, it doesn't say anymore because the bonus is already gone.

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