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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:20 pm 
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I want to make sub as a dagger and i would like to know your opinion about what dagger class should i choose .
I know there is a big controvercy about PW, AW and TH , there are a lot of topics about it, but i couldn't find the answer to one question :

- can a Ghost hunter or Wind rider replace an Adventurer on PI for hunting T-rex ?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:37 pm 
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I will be direct: YES

Hex, higher blow landing rate and higher damage (focus death), if not, higher crits.

Well this applies mostly to AW, but I think a good PW can replace a good TH. The fact is that on some servers there are 80% THs, 19% AWs, 1% PWs, so mostly THs are chosen. Anyway it also depends if ur playing low rate or high rate server, retail?

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how they can replace TH razveck? aw and pw dont hav stealth and dash and if u go hunt trex in pi u need a th to drag trex out of his nest and from this 3 daggers th is the most quickly...u must be noob to replace a th with aw/pw at pi, u take aw and pw only if u dont find a th

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Is that the biggest problem? Dragging it? LOL..
I think TH is better cuz of his passives for speed, crt rate and dmg.. altought AW has higher STR and I dont really know which one will do better dmg.. cuz u cant spam skills non-stop, unless it's high rate with mana potions but why would you need T-rex anyway..
PW.. nah..


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i don't see big problem that PW don't have stealth, he has silent move and chameleon, chameleon is consuming mp, but still mp regenerating faster it means you can left you char in dino island sitting and don't be afraid that any of mobs will come to you and kill, stealth is good only when you're soloing, otherwise you will need to lead box into some spot, so it's don't make huge diferent, AND PW with WW speed is almost like TH+WW+dash, my prefer is PW, especialy i like when all hits=crits (it's rare, but it happens) :roll: ofcourse he has lack of Patk, and he is weak in this situation, but on this case there're blow skills

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Passive for speed? All three have speed passive.
Constantly, the aw and pw are much faster than the th.

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i think he ment attack speed passive
also you can aro with hex/entange as well


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Sekkurel wrote:
i think he ment attack speed passive
also you can aro with hex/entange as well


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AW/PW have BB which deals damage and makes u run very fast.
So yes, u can easily replace a TH with PW/AW

If u hunt Trexes choose AW. Hex is very profitable.


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Sekkurel wrote:
i think he ment attack speed passive
also you can aro with hex/entange as well


Yes, I meant attack speed.
And if you don't have a guy to hex then AW is a must.


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A TH usually is the best choice for luring Trex out onto the beach into the waiting arms of the nuker and tanker party coz only the TH have stealth and since the Trex are always in the deeper part of the Lost Nest, you dont want to aggro all the other mobs to reach it.


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razveck wrote:
I will be direct: YES

Anyway it also depends if ur playing low rate or high rate server, retail?


I'm playing low-middle rate - Wrath .
I already choose AW, will see how it is :D .


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longbowsix wrote:
A TH usually is the best choice for luring Trex out onto the beach into the waiting arms of the nuker and tanker party coz only the TH have stealth and since the Trex are always in the deeper part of the Lost Nest, you dont want to aggro all the other mobs to reach it.


For nuker party it is not bad. But if talking about destroyer party, than AW is simply better if u don't have active BD.


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PW can lure t-rex too...silent move, hit, run(the other mobs will atack you)like 5 sec, fake death, stand up, blinding blow t-rex and run out the nest(only the t-rex will follow you this time). PW can rock a TH in pvp any time you want it(if it has 78 :D).
<----------------- you see that? listen the PW master :)

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aditzu wrote:
PW can lure t-rex too...silent move, hit, run(the other mobs will atack you)like 5 sec, fake death, stand up, blinding blow t-rex and run out the nest(only the t-rex will follow you this time). PW can rock a TH in pvp any time you want it(if it has 78 :D).
<----------------- you see that? listen the PW master :)


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ontopic...yes all daggers can drag trex but th is the fastest one becuz stealth dont decrease speed + he has dash so i dont see any motive to replace the th with other dagger....and bd has hex too so u dont choose aw for hex

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