Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 66 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:27 pm 
Viscount
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:40 pm
Posts: 626
comparing dmg per HIT between a dagger and a bow ( for example) is stupid.

example

dph for a bow= 1000
dph for a dagger= 300

that gives u nothing. ( i hope u agree with this)
we need another factor to tell witch weapon is better (for examle for a wc, doesnt matter)

that factor would be hits per second.

example
hits per second for a dagger = 4
hits per second for a bow = 1

now we can calculate witch weapon is better for our wc. i didnt mention misses and criticals - since crit rate for a bow and a dagger is the same we can forget about it (same with accuracy)

dps for a bow= 1000 ------ 1000 * 1
dps for a dagger = 1200 ------ 300 * 4

so now we know that our wc has better dps with dagger. ( this weapon is better).

conclusion

dps is a factor wich shows witch weapon is better. we can compare any kind of a weapon. no matter atk speed since we are calculating dmg given in one second.

like i said on a begining. u would be right if i will use dph.
iam using http://l2calc.l2blah.com/ i think u know it.


Last edited by hbsr on Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:44 am 
Elder
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:31 pm
Posts: 116
Location: Romania
Indead l2calc show's that the dps is much better with SB but i am very sorry to say i won't trade that damage for 177 attack speed . The faster you hit the higher chance of giveing a critical crit occurs and you can recover very fast from a miss . I did this test on a lvl 80 Sr no Dye and all self buffs / buffs for attack speed . So even if l2calc say that SB has better dps i still don't agree with it .. you never hit 100% so there are other factors . The main thing that boders me is that you can't kite well with SB and you can't make that little step in some direction so you can have +evasion and higher re-load . Overall Sb sux and it's not only me who say this facts speack as well , look on retail and you will see no one useing SB now , when it first came out yeah all of them used it but not now coz it's like haveing root .. Even more if we talk about PvE Carnage ManaUp is sweet because if you have pp buffs and some Bd with you your Mp will fly real fast , as for PvP you need to deal a lot of dmg very fast , we all know when we pray for a crit to come and it dosen't come intead it come's some miss so this would not be nice in PvP . Anyway this is my last post in this topic because it's pointless , some ppl like that SB some Carnage ...


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:35 pm 
Vassal
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:56 pm
Posts: 25
Location: Tne Netherlands
There has been said a lot.
But if you ask..I prefer Soul Bow

_________________
Image


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:23 pm 
Viscount
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:40 pm
Posts: 626
Sasha_ wrote:
some ppl like that SB some Carnage ...



agree. lets just leave it like it is.


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:29 pm 
Elder

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:22 pm
Posts: 157
Location: greece
soul bow is beter than carnage anyway 8) 8) 8)


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:57 pm 
Knight

Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:50 pm
Posts: 80
hbsr wrote:
Sasha_ wrote:
some ppl like that SB some Carnage ...



agree. lets just leave it like it is.


this guy want's to know wich one is better LOOL

the better one is the BOP QR :D ^^ IMO


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:06 pm 
Elder
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:31 pm
Posts: 116
Location: Romania
Read Topic before posting .. it's Soul Bow or Carnage not Soulb or Bow of Peril .


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:17 pm 
Duke
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:29 pm
Posts: 2496
Location: slovenia
btwi agree with gr3k , the bop qr is better cuz of the highest atk.spd and for overenchanting :wink:

_________________
[img]http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4016/shot00361bmp.jpg[/img]
jajajajajajajaj im cool now D:


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:18 pm 
Knight

Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:50 pm
Posts: 80
Sasha_ wrote:
Read Topic before posting .. it's Soul Bow or Carnage not Soulb or Bow of Peril .


i was trying to tell him that he need's none of them...it's only a waste of money

A grade, if it's interlude, try getting sheed's bow but is almost the same effort as crafting DB so i don't see the point


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:50 am 
Viscount
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:43 pm
Posts: 384
Location: България
BoP(QR)=best bow for pvp...make it +16 and it will be better then daraconic and u always will hit first :)


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:16 pm 
Count

Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:45 pm
Posts: 978
Location: Arad, Romania
Gr3k wrote:
Sasha_ wrote:
Read Topic before posting .. it's Soul Bow or Carnage not Soulb or Bow of Peril .


i was trying to tell him that he need's none of them...it's only a waste of money



It's not a waste of money.. i don't think u'll love to lvl with B grades , when u can craft Soul Bow.
CB is a waste, but SB no is not.

Soul Bow + 0 + CS > BOP + 10 + QR in PvE.
BOP + 10 + QR > Soul Bow + QR + 3 in PvP.


Gr3k wrote:
A grade, if it's interlude, try getting sheed's bow but is almost the same effort as crafting DB so i don't see the point


Or be4 u make those quests , there's always an event called Trick Or Transmutation Event where u can get u're Shyeed's Bow with a bit of luck and some farming or being a good merchant :)


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:27 pm 
Heir
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:29 pm
Posts: 67
Location: Zakinthos
Between carn and SB I prefer carnage... If u ask me genarally BoP QR... very good :)

_________________
Dwarves are evil


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:04 am 
Elder

Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:36 pm
Posts: 178
Location: Pozarevac
bla bla bla bla bla !! OMG Why so discuss ?! I thin you should make some more balance ! Its best to get money for draco +f , but thats easy to say :P
carnage and soulbow go on the same thing . soulbow make more dmg , an dcarnage make smaler dmg but have a much bigger ak speed ! and there is no that shit WHAT IS BETHER , use bow that is good for your class , bow that balance your class , and its good for PVP style you play .(like hit and run )
there are thing-s where carnage is bether and where soulbow is bether . if you go pvp VS dager , o tank you would use carnage coz you dont need lot of time to stand before shot arrow .

_________________
Image


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:02 pm 
Viscount
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:20 pm
Posts: 456
Location: Dark elven village
Vitezkoja wrote:
bla bla bla bla bla !! OMG Why so discuss ?! I thin you should make some more balance ! Its best to get money for draco +f , but thats easy to say :P
carnage and soulbow go on the same thing . soulbow make more dmg , an dcarnage make smaler dmg but have a much bigger ak speed ! and there is no that shit WHAT IS BETHER , use bow that is good for your class , bow that balance your class , and its good for PVP style you play .(like hit and run )
there are thing-s where carnage is bether and where soulbow is bether . if you go pvp VS dager , o tank you would use carnage coz you dont need lot of time to stand before shot arrow .


Omg look at the date... :?

_________________
Server: TG RPG
Char: Sph


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:08 pm 
Elder

Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:36 pm
Posts: 178
Location: Pozarevac
I did b1tch :D
but ppl are still reading that post and are confused :)

_________________
Image


Reply with quote
Top
 OfflineProfile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 66 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC + 2 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Contact | Cookies policy