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Icarus wrote:
There's no case of majesty giving more pdef than guard stance.


and what about my example isnt majesty better there? iam not saying that majesty is always better but is some cases it is better. so you were wrong writing

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guard stance gives more pdef than majesty, for those who don't know


P.S. if you have less then 1710 p def gs is better. above this value majesty. it is just math.


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You won't get 1700 base pdef, that's what i'm trying to say. +3 dynasty set (DYNASTY!) makes a max of 1284 pdef to add from. That's 192.6 pdef, while gs gives 256.5 pdef. That means we have eliminated every case of majesty giving more pdef than gs.

Not to mention that on retail and retail-like servers you don't see a dynasty set every day. Those things are bastardly steep to craft. Maybe some clan leader and a few of his friends, but not every lvl 85 player.

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take some buffs and you are done. i tryed it in l2calc and it worked. iam not in the mood to post it but if you really want i will.


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You can more p. def with majesty with UD on than with GS ^^

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"STFU" and "GTFO" members thread, nice

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hbsr wrote:
take some buffs and you are done. i tryed it in l2calc and it worked. iam not in the mood to post it but if you really want i will.

Majesty is a BUFF. It increases a base stat, not the final stat.
I told you, there's a bug in l2calc here.

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hm one question, its not about pala but still about tanks: how many % reflect dmg gives you Shield of Revenge of the Dark Avenger

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Icarus wrote:
You won't get 1700 base pdef, that's what i'm trying to say. +3 dynasty set (DYNASTY!) makes a max of 1284 pdef to add from. That's 192.6 pdef, while gs gives 256.5 pdef. That means we have eliminated every case of majesty giving more pdef than gs.

Not to mention that on retail and retail-like servers you don't see a dynasty set every day. Those things are bastardly steep to craft. Maybe some clan leader and a few of his friends, but not every lvl 85 player.


i saw tanks with ic set not dynasty set who had more than 2k defense with sws/shield/g.shield/cov

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I said base... If YOU can get 1.7k base pdef, show me, i have trouble hitting 1.3k.
And when i say base i mean UNFUCKINGBUFFED.

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my ST 80 full buffed(cov+shield+greater shield+earth song) with IC set +6 all has 2251 pdef without guard stance toggled
with guard stance i have 2507

ST 80 no buffs for pdef/same armor set no augument skills for pdef

1519 pdef
1776 WITH GS


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GoDs3nD wrote:
my ST 80 full buffed(cov+shield+greater shield+earth song) with IC set +6 all has 2251 pdef without guard stance toggled
with guard stance i have 2507


With or w/o zerk?

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What server is that? With that setup, an sk gets 1406 pdef. Unbuffed. It's still clear from that 1.7k base we were talking about.

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Icarus wrote:
I told you, there's a bug in l2calc here.


i dont get it man. so l2p formula about p def is good or wrong in your opinion?

(P.Def.=(((4+Armor P.Def.)*Level Modifier*Armor Bonus)*Buffs Type 1)+Armor Mastery+Buffs Type 2)

decide man becouse in one case you agree with it and in another it is a bug for you. and if you can tell me where in this formula is your base p def whitch you are talking about. i really wanna know.


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Icarus wrote:
What server is that? With that setup, an sk gets 1406 pdef. Unbuffed. It's still clear from that 1.7k base we were talking about.

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