xmm at gracia mages are really good...i think necro is a char that can fight everyone but after long time players drop boss jewels so here is the difference...so i think necro is good until then but after what happen?also many prefer sps is a nice char good casting speed so more possible to have m criticals also i dont like much the others but...which mage is best without boss jewels and which mage with boss jewels?? who can manage against the most classes and who can manage also well at oly?write what you prefer and for what reason but not explain every mage + or - ...just your favorite mage that can manage at most of these and most at pvps....dont consider about xp period..cause always everyone speak about xp time and for raids...the final point is pvp...so just for pvps thnx

Sh -> great nuker killer (-30% cspeed + silence + loads of matk to land silence). Good melee killer (slow effect 3).
Sps -> great melee killer (-30% speed vortex and frost bolt). Mediocre mage killer, his only chance is interrupting. But you need some luck for this.
Sorc -> not at the height of the competition, but he is a born aoe-er.
Necro -> good, but he lost much. In any pvp his main concern is landing debuffs, but don't be fooled, even if his damage is the lowest of all nukers, he has that transfer pain.


There you have it.

Icarus explain very good the mage's class.But for PVP i thing the Necro is best becouse he is human and he have more con than oder mage,and if you make Rainedman on +5 the summoner will 79lv and buffed have 10k HP,so whit tranfer pain will be veery hard to kill him

I think necro's transfer pain doesnt count in party vs party pvps since its summon can be killed/turned-lethaled/erased/betrayed easily, cos he probably lowers men for wit and int. His debuffs are crucial though.
Wind vortex, ice vortex and fire vortex have the same debuff effects (speed + casting + atkspd lowering) that stack with lv40-74 slow effects --> all elemental type nukers are potential opponents of melee chars.

And, i've heard somewhere that in gracia magic criticals are depending on int instead of wit (im not sure about that, please confirm/deny with proofs), and their chance has also been increased by 10x. If both are true, the magic dmg cannon is now sh, with wild magic he does bigger damage than sps even in short time. And in pvp lv6 concentration is a need (oly: buffer npc bah...) so sps and sorc lose their magic cancel concerned advantages.

@Sweety: the difference in con between a human and a dark elf mage is 3 points of con. Not exactly rellevant.

@RAFAR: no, vortexes differ in debuffs. Every vortex takes 10% speed, atk speed and casting speed, excepting the -30% loss which depends by vortex. Wind vortex takes 30% casting speed, ice vortex takes 30% speed, while fire vortex takes 30% atk speed. Dark vortex takes nothing, but it has a vampiric effect, while light vortex does absolutely nothing except decreasing resistance to sacred attacks (every vortex takes away specific resistances).

RAFAR wrote:

Wind vortex, ice vortex and fire vortex have the same debuff effects (speed + casting + atkspd lowering) that stack with lv40-74 slow effects...

OK, l2p is working again, icarus ur right about vortex effects. (i remembered wrong when i posted that, and l2p was unavailable to look them up)

What does l2p stands for in this case? I guess not L2 Paradise...

l2wh?

l2p comes from l2physics.

http://l2p.l2wh.com/

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Hmm where did you find that in l2p? It's been a while since i visited it.

Buffs section, it includes debuffs too ... or i dont know what u r asking :S

Aaah yes. I just looked in the menu and thought 'wth where were the debuff effects?'. Haven't used l2p for some time. Thanks.

best mage ??? lol obviasly bishop lol wid strike ftw !!!
my areal advice is this try all mage classes then decide the 1 you like and play best
if you cant play with mages then try another char

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