I know, but it's better than nothing. And it's a factor in pvp.

man what are you talking about? 4% more heal is a factor in pvp? dc is good for sk ? tallum for pvp? i just cant belive what i see here....

as a tank u need 2 setups...on for tanking NM/IC one for dps Tallum and if u want u can make a optionaly setup for healing

Dc means + shield block rate. I repeat, if you have that on an sk, you need bless shield lvl 1 to have 100% block chance. 360 degrees, remember.
4% heal is good in tank vs tank, in case you don't have any ic set on you. Never said it's like OMFGWTF bonus, but it's welcomed. Anyway, i don't wear dc for that, i wear it for the shield block rate.
Tallum is good for pvp vs mages. So is dc.

first of all who the hell will buff you with bless shield lvl 1 - 40 lvl pp? you can reach 100% shield block rate with nm/mj and just lvl 3 bless shield (56 lvl pp so it is easy to get). dc has low p def, crappy bonuses. it is overall bad for pvp (is some cases good) and horrible for pve. just the worst a grade set for a tank. the most universal set is nm. so for me it is the best.

A paladin with lvl 6 bless shield has 77% block rate. Not 100% as you speculate. If we put a dc heavy on, we have 93% shield block rate, that's almost as good as the sk and tk. (dc set means 16% block rate added, that's more than enough)
An sk only with guard stance on has 68% chances to block. The pala only has 44%. The sk needs lvl 1 bshield to get 100% block rate while in dc heavy.

With lvl 6 bless shield, his final block rate will be exactly 144% while the pala will have 93% chance, like i said. This is just symbolic to see the difference. Play with l2calc a bit, you will see i'm right. No tank except sk and tk can't reach 100% through buffs and armors (not even in doom heavy). Sure, if you add an infinity axe it's something else.

i wasnt talking about paly here. you said sk in dc and bless shield lvl 1 =100% block shield. if we belive what l2calc says here then i agree but i just compared that same sk with a lot better nm/maj set and bless shield lvl 3 can reach 100% too.

True, but you can't always afford a bshield, that's my point.
Nm set, sure, gives more pdef but really... Not that much. Unbuffed in dc you have 1022, while in nm 1064. Really not a good factor.

This is for all of you saying that dc is bad because it gives low pdef. Next time check l2calc. It just takes 30 seconds.

MAYBE if you're a DA/pala and want to compensate for the pdef that majesty gives compared to guard stance (guard stance gives more pdef than majesty, for those who don't know). I stand up to what i've said. I'd use nm on a DA for that extra reflect.

id use nm on my sk...

using same arguments and rhetoric i can proove that doom set is better then dc.
1)difference in p def between dc-doom is almost the same(even less!) like nm-dc (26 and 42)
2)doom gives more shield def rate
3)doom gives +1 con - 1 str more ( as a tanks you will need it)
4)doom gives a small bonus to your hp

u dont have that crappy 4% more from heals witch imo is useless and 50% para resist ( this is the best thing that dc gives, sometimes very usefull)

lets go back too nm/dc
so as you see maybe p def diff isnt so high unbuffed (42) but when yor are fully buffed it can reach 100 or so.




you arent correct here. guard stance gives a numerical value to your p def and majesty percentage value. so in some cases majesty gives more p def.

you arent correct here. guard stance gives a numerical value to your p def and majesty percentage value. so in some cases majesty gives more p def.


wich cases hbsr?

you have 2k p def
- with guard stance you will have 2000 + 256,5 = 2256,5 p def
- with majesty 2k+2k*0,15 = 2300 p def

2k pdef =?wich buffs?wich armor set?wich level?

that doesnt matter. it is just an example. sometimes majesty>guard stance. that is all

There's no case of majesty giving more pdef than guard stance. I know very well that gs gives a static value while the majesty gives a dynamic value.

Let's take the best example.
80 shillien templar in dynasty set + gs = 1514 pdef
80 phoenix knight in dynasty set + majesty = 1406 pdef.
And i think l2calc is wrong here, because majesty is a buff, gs is a toggle. L2calc shows a 20 pdef difference between pala and sk in full buffed state. We need to test this ingame because we all know that buffs increase base stats and not final stats.

Nm - dc difference in full buffed is ~75 pdef. Whilst dc - doom difference is about 65 pdef. I never denied this.