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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:50 am 
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I won't lie, I play on a private server, at least it's not a stolen C4 or something. We're trying to create a server as close to the retail as possible, but since I din't play on retail yet, I'd like to ask:

Is this normal?
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The Destro was fighting, he didn't sell the mach or anything. Should the glad be doing so much damage? Few skills and it's over?
I've got an archer, glad of an equal lvl is doing more dmg via distance skills than I am, is that normal? Glad owns everyone without an effort?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:03 am 
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Sorry i also don't understand,
and there is no text about how much dmg you recieved...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:36 am 
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Well I kinda thought it was obvious.

It's the olympic stadium, so self buffed:
Duelist lvl 77, Titan lvl 77, (ok lvls not obvious, but since olympics, you should have guessed 76~80) Duelist killed him with 6 skills and the titan managed to use 4 skills and was already dead. Is THAT normal? I don't have the damage, but a Titan would have at least 11k CP/HP. I'm sorry it's not so obvious and accurate, but it's a general question, should a glad kill a destro so easly. Anyone, not only a destro for this matter.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:34 pm 
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No way. That's not normal. A sonic blaster would do around 1-1.2k dmg, on crit double, no way, a destro just doesn't die in 3 skills. The range attacks aren't that strong. Maybe the close slashes do some damage, like 2k the best one but no way, not that damage.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:20 pm 
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First Low dmg from distant atacks lower then the 3 skills and destroyer dead if he can make this a nuker should die in simply 1 skill? At c6 Frienzl2 server gladiator if he can kills a nuker with 2 close skills(slashes) and one distant before it.... so AT LEAST 3 skills a lot more if the Nuker got Vortex or Vampiric Claw.... and if the nuker is buffer no Duelist could kill him simply Slow and get out of the 600 range of the Gladi skills :) slow nuke run nuke run and only my CP is down :P


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:06 pm 
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THIS will never happen in PVP server it will be Destro wins human dies. Some gyus are telling : destro is slow! lol come arena or coliseum u cant run forever


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:16 pm 
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Lol yesterday i was in olympiad and a destro killed a galdi with loosing only 50% of cp :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:11 pm 
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If u r speaking for THAT SPECIFIC PICTURE i think its normal
i have a duelist 79 lvl and i make on titan 79 4800 dmg tss crit hit ofcourse i dont know what skills its use coz u say that destro use 6 skills ?
2nd) if i see right the duelist is hero .... no coment ... if it is hero .. hero ud infinity weapon and bb :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:53 pm 
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Destroyers are made to kill worrior type classes and tanks, a glad can never kill a destroyer with equal skill in playstyle( tyrant can - criple + wolf totem ) but gladies have less speed than the destro in zealot + frenzy + battle roar so no chance.IMO smth is verry bugged :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:17 pm 
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I have all skills +5 enchanted on power and tss +6 i have S duals that means on 79 lvl 7100hp 6300 +- cp self buffs , ( i have destro sub ) until charge zealot -300+ hp ? i thnk, and frenzy, ( 30% hp for that maybe less ) the titan is 1 tss and down . TSS never make less than 2k dmg with 7 charges on ;) always when i saw doing frenzy i hit TSS and maybe buster then soo 3k dmg for open frenzy , he cant have more than 3k hp for that ;)
Dont forget that duelist have frenzy as pasive skill :P not that efective as destro but it realy works ( final frenzy )


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:33 pm 
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Well i played destroyer for some time :) realy i never had a chance that a gladiator ot any tank was able to kill me. DA get close but thats all maybe the guy u pvp-ed is not that expirienced or u are equiped with armor and duals + 10+ :) and 2k dmg without a crit on heavy armor user with magestic armor realy btw i played gladiator for a few mounths now :) and thats a bit not real i make 3k crit on robe user with TSS :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:48 pm 
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i have maje set all +4 S tallum*dark legion +4 duals i m 79 lvl.
on what lvl u do 3k crit on tss ? and what duals? , check if u use duelist spirit warcry and vicius stance and u have 7 charges and then tell me if u make 3k crit on tss :) specialy on robe ..


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:08 pm 
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Visious stance does not aply to skills :) anyway glad lvl 69 + BW heavy + dual spirit*spirit +15, duelist spirit does not have any dmg increase on skills :) , actualy P.atack does not have so much effect either :) so warcry useless for skills i mean try your skill dmg with dual +4 and dual +40 :) and see the difference :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:52 pm 
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Sometimes the Duelist wins, sometimes the Titan will. It depends who uses his skills better and which one gets luckier in crits too.
A glad has the advantage of charging his sonics and nuking so he doesn't have to be near the Titan. But that would give the Titan time to use Guts and Zealot or Frenzy and Zealot. So most Duelist approach the melee playstyle. Get up close, use your sonics in a combo and instill major damage. Some people will say, yes but if the Titan uses a bow he will have range combat abilities too. True, but compare the damage of a titan with 2-handed sword and the damage done with a bow (2h > bow) since last I checked Titan had no bow masteries at all.

Someone said previously that the Duelist is a hero and he used hero skills (Miracle I think was invoked) but surprise, suprise, this is a Olympiad match and you can't make use of Heroic skills (maybe on certain crap private servers you can) so we rule that out of the question.

And something else you have not taken into consideration so far that I see of, in Olympiad you can only make use of self-buffs (no pots, scrolls, etc) BUT there are weapons whose SAs will give you certain buffs such as Bless the Body, effect 5 / Focus, effect 3 / Mental Shield, effect 4 and if the Duelist had, say Focus and Bless the Body then he could of whitstand the Titan's damage and outdo himself by killing the Titan. Moreso, a Duelist has Battle Roar which also restores a certain ammount of HP aside to increasing your maximum HP. So, if you had Bless the Body 5 and use Battle Roar during the fight to restore your HP, you have all the more chances of winning. Yes, the Titan has Battle Roar too but if he used it before the match to increase his Max HP, he will not have it ready in time to heal him during the match.

All in one, a Duelist CAN kill a Titan, just as well as a Titan can kill a Duelist. It's all about knowledge to do so, if you ask me.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:19 pm 
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SIROJOHN want to know that try dude. L2RavenThroneI PvP server . Me Destro : DeadlyImpact - vs GLadiator ---- HE hit hit hit and hit 1k 1k 4k 5k and then .............frenzy , zealot , rage health -47k P.atack (full buffed + tatoo of power + weop A grade +50 dragon slayer NO DYES) and zealot gives and speed to i get close to hit and then : 3k 3k Critical hit 12k ....Incorrect Target -> Gf


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