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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:00 pm 
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all classes are good in certain level range..for example gladi sux hard..while duelist ownz hard
kitty cant spamm cp pots but his owner can spamm heals and cppots:)
the kitty will wo0p ur ass with its high pat and atk spd and same time the summoner may cast debuffs like banes and discruption..the summoner may support himself with a profecy while a mage cant...
imagine u both have ch buffs but the kat has pof and ur mage has now pow..


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all classes are good in certain level range..for example gladi sux hard..while duelist ownz hard
kitty cant spamm cp pots but his owner can spamm heals and cppots:)
the kitty will wo0p ur ass with its high pat and atk spd and same time the summoner may cast debuffs like banes and discruption..the summoner may support himself with a profecy while a mage cant...
imagine u both have ch buffs but the kat has pof and ur mage has now pow..
If you have PoW and the cat has Pof , u'll kill it 5 hits.
Cuz as a SH with ch buffs + pow + arcane power u'll have 3,5k m att and 1k+ casting. Not to mention that if you go for pvp, u'll prolly have mal.

Don't tell me u'll have troubles killing 8k HP on 600 m def with 3,5k m att lol
Same if it's lower lvl pvp, will end up the same way.
Not to mention that if you slow the cat (which already has pof) it will never reach u till summoner cures it. Enough time to rape the cat lol

And btw, something u didnt know but, kat has shitty att speed.

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all classes are good in certain level range..for example gladi sux hard..while duelist ownz hard
kitty cant spamm cp pots but his owner can spamm heals and cppots:)
the kitty will wo0p ur ass with its high pat and atk spd and same time the summoner may cast debuffs like banes and discruption..the summoner may support himself with a profecy while a mage cant...
imagine u both have ch buffs but the kat has pof and ur mage has now pow..
If you have PoW and the cat has Pof , u'll kill it 5 hits.
Cuz as a SH with ch buffs + pow + arcane power u'll have 3,5k m att and 1k+ casting. Not to mention that if you go for pvp, u'll prolly have mal.

Don't tell me u'll have troubles killing 8k HP on 600 m def with 3,5k m att lol
Same if it's lower lvl pvp, will end up the same way.
Not to mention that if you slow the cat (which already has pof) it will never reach u till summoner cures it. Enough time to rape the cat lol

And btw, something u didnt know but, kat has shitty att speed.


u still dont get my point..read my post AGAIN i say again any class is good at its lvl!and example is that u go ch buffed to farm(with a necro u will solo or u will duo with a se for higher lvl emp)!the summoner is able to buff its cat with fking profecy but u cant!u must get an elven elder and ask for 1..
and after 4 minutes go back to town for another powater..
and in that case (if u go find a buffer) the summoner may find a buffer 2!and will get for example greater might lv 2!
u add ur imba buffs to the mage but u forget about the summoner lol!
if u dont have powater the summoner will have for sure cuz thats his buff..


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:39 pm 
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So what? lol When u go pvp u wont go with just ch buffs lmao
And summon can't get CH buffs so he needs buffer ANYWAY.
W/o dw/focus/might 3 etc he wont even take my cp down lmao...

You're overrating the summoner. I had summoner and I tell you it sucks balls.
Only good in Oly and exp. If you lose to summoner 1 vs 1 you are
1) unbuffed
2) handicap
3) you're lower lvl or unequally buffed

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dude pvp may happen when u farm.. ur point is very retarded->pvping will happen only when u are absolutely prepared and full buffed and u rly want to pvp..LOL


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Feline King stats wc buffs and final servitor + the movement buff from the summoner

HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3348 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 125 Evasion 116
Critical 60 Speed 191
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 519

1 he doesnt have 600 mdef and even with gloom on he can stil reach you

2 his speed is bigger then you and with that patk and attack speed he can really hurt you unless you have summon on that is already betrayed

3 the summoner has heales and debuffs plus some cubics that rock
4 summoners are very hard to kill even with a nuker if they know how to play its like a 2 vs 1 and people rarly manage to win these fights if there equaly skiled

so yes godsend is right marios is wrong

DEAL WITH IT !


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:03 pm 
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You're a BIG retard. Why?

Dogsent said POF. Aka Warrior servitor. Aka 630 mdef.
W/ gloom would be less than 500 m def.
Also 'with gloom he can still reach you'<-- maybe you meant slow.
And no, with slow has 131 speed.

And yes, with heal he'll outspam my dmg and 1k+ c speed right?
And summoners are very hard to kill? XD
Maybe in another game.

So get your facts straight tard.

Imo half people here have NEVER played either class and just love talking shit and disagreeing. How bout i make vid with my SH against AL? :>

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+1 to Sekkurel. At last someone who knows smth about the cat.

And I say again, for xxxxth time. YOU CAN'T MUTHA FUCKIN KILL THE MUTHA FUCKIN CAT BEFORE IT GETS TO YOU!! The topic is for Necromancer against Warlock, in lvl ~70, so don't give up any explanations like "Feline King ftw", "He has Final Servitor", "1 Slow and Cat is done". Tell me marios, how can you slow this cat at lvl 70 with Necromancer without Curse of Abyss. Answer: normal Slow lvl 1, or Mass Slow, which drains HP and is close range. Both cases doesn't work. Summoner will outspam the your "imba" casting speed 1k+ with 2 things...Arcane Disruption, and a very good heal. Summoners can heal their servitors better even than EE. What DPS you think you will have like this? And do you think it will be enough to kill the cat before it eats your CP which isn't that much? Get the facts...you can't always win, because you always go to PvP on full buff, with full support and on max lvl.

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Mass slow. Simple.
And cat has like 5k HP (6,3k if btb 5)on 600 m def.
Means 450- after gloom. What will your damage be with 1,5k+ m att on 450 m def? :> Lemme see :O 1500+ . 4-5 hits.
How many hits you'll do before cat reaches you? 2 at worse.
So what will warlock do? COME CLOSE FOR ARCANE DISTRUPTION?
BETRAY? OR HEAL HIS HALF HP CAT? XD

PS: his cat has 300 dps on pp buffed A grade mage(cat on pp buffs no zerk +GM) according to l2 calc.

343.2 98% 0.74 372-536 262-377 5% 1006-1449 708-1020

I wanna see how will warlock kill the necro.

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You will use your pet as a necro vs summoner?
I see.. :lol:


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You will use your pet as a necro vs summoner?
I see.. :lol:


u still dont get it..man the summoner will betray ur pet.. and what?!when summon is betrayed u die?lol man betray is not 100%..betray is not instant cast/betray is not win button
so i will rly use my summon vs a summoner
if it betrays me.. and what!it doesnt hurt


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if he betrays your summon, you can simply deactive pet ss or unsummon it...

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Ok, did a lil test with the help of an AL from my clan.

Kai w/ magic barrier has 650 m def and my hurricane does 1350 dmg to him. Means 1992 m att vs 650 m def = 1350 dmg,
When i surrender it i do 1760 dmg. When it has cov i do 1466 dmg
1760 when surender and vortex have landed on CoVed kai.
CoVed Kai has 777 m def btw....

So don't tell me summoner has ANY chance in fair 1 vs 1 vs nuker lol.
Gank is another thing btw.

And, now we tried real pvp for fun :p
He got pp buffs (no zerk) on kai and he coved it.
Sent it to me. It died while doing ONLY 1 hit to me.

Now we tried again, he got buffs from PP too.
He did 1k dmg total to me.

SO DONT TELL ME NUKERS HAVE ANY PROB VS SUMMONERS XD

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if he betrays your summon, you can simply deactive pet ss or unsummon it...


You cant unsummon it, I'm not sure about the ss.
Still, betray cast is pretty fast, the delay is low and the chance is very high especially vs necro summons(panther, golem too)
It's another advantage of the Warlock, will you prefer to get hit by another pet or just dont use it?

You guys showed that you don't know what will happen in a real fight. Yes you just unsummon it.. Right.. YOU CAN'T!
Do you know why they lowered the pet's dmg in PvP? Because summoners were too strong! And if you play on L2 Light where you have 5 rows of buffs, yeah, summoner sucks..
But if you play normal server with only CH buffs and maybe sometimes songs n dances which is really rare and then it means its not even 1v1 anymore..
Warlock will use just 2 skills - Betray and Arcane Disruption (no mage bane as I understood its 70+, next thing he will heal his cat you probably hitted him once or twice.. and now you have lowered cast and ur pet hitting.. why dont u get it?! It's the best for you not to use ur summon! Relay on nukes and curses, thats it!


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:shock: wtf i unsummoned my pet when got betrayed o O!No karma mi pliz!Ok no summons then


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