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I also intend to raise a PP on second session so in (almost) all times i'll have PP buffs on archer. In that case, does become He a more efficient char than a Sr? I ask this cause I know some characters draws more benefits from a certain set of buffs than others .. Eg daggers are godlike in fullbuff mode :D . Or nearly.


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all depends on ur style... imo if you prefer long range atacks go HE (highest range of all archers), if you prefer lower range but a damn machinegun-like archer go for SR...


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Piranha wrote:
all depends on ur style... imo if you prefer long range atacks go HE (highest range of all archers), if you prefer lower range but a damn machinegun-like archer go for SR...




???????? highest range ???? am i missing something here? like all archers and mages have the same 900 range ? (c1/c2/c3/c4/c5/c6) ?

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I think he meant highest range with Snipe.


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lvl 78 Skill : Archery - Increases attack strength and maximum attack range while using a bow.
yes, biggest range :P

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Serenity wrote:
Piranha wrote:
all depends on ur style... imo if you prefer long range atacks go HE (highest range of all archers), if you prefer lower range but a damn machinegun-like archer go for SR...




???????? highest range ???? am i missing something here? like all archers and mages have the same 900 range ? (c1/c2/c3/c4/c5/c6) ?

You mean about 1050 with archery passive (interlude shiat). Come on snipe is really not for pvp with melees.


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indeed.if you use snipe in pvp you're making a pretty big mistake coz you can't kite anymore and that's what archers usually do.except the slowpoke HE ofcourse.but still. you snipe,the enemy runs :)

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SirAdrian wrote:
indeed.if you use snipe in pvp you're making a pretty big mistake coz you can't kite anymore and that's what archers usually do.except the slowpoke HE ofcourse.but still. you snipe,the enemy runs :)


I'm talking about sieges and that stuff... ofc u will not use snipe on 1 vs 1... but in sieges usually long range atacks play a fulcral role...


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Hey i'm a lil confused, both human and elven archer have the "archery" skill on third prof so difference makes He when "sniping". Btw, when sniping He will have range more than 1050 ? :D LoL Cause that will be the range of archers with passive "archery" learned.


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SR is a lot faster with full buff on c4 which you play you will make more criticals then the same time HE does ... simple counting of shots you won't do good in pvp maybe with another archer but other as mage and fighters you will kill easy I repeat with almost or full buffs.... with no buff fights I think HE wins coz of the more HC/CP


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Look, snipe is made for pvp versus mage (assuming you have no archery) and for defending in sieges, it helps standing on castle walls with snipe.


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SR is the best archer cuz speed is the most important thing in pvp :)

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Let`s asume you pvp another archer and your slow lands. You will be fastert than him but to atck you have to get clsoe to him so he can atack int he same time. Pvpp-ing a HE he has better stunr essit than you so his stun shot can land better. You can slow other caracters and run athen hit thena gain run then again hit. YOu got to little classes agaisnt you can do this and win. If you are not full buffed it will be a long fight because you might not do the needed ammount of dmg to kill him easy :) [ keep in mind rapid fire decreases atk range a lot :) ]


Its true HE has more con so he will probably resist more to stuns... but is also true that a Silver Ranger with pp buffs , rapidfire and the blessing of sagitarius will cast 2 stun shots in the time the HE casts one...


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And what about archers vs titans ? :P

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