Dont turn this personal, getting angry with a game/forum is a noobie thing and i think you arent

Yeah i forgot Overlord, it is hard a lot too... But did you ever had a dagger or a SK on PvP? You never were on a low rate server right...

Dagger: You have to administrate mp or it will burn on 5 secs, know when to use switch, the right time to backstab or it will do 1 dmg, change target without waste 1 second, etc etc...

SK: Shackle power brake slow hex? lol? i'm too lazy to make 5 explaxation lines now, maybe tomorrow

Archers they always find partyes easy .. range type partyes.



A noob can learn to play a lot quicker with an archer than with a melee type at PvP'ing..

Now 4 SirAdrian .. i really want to know why u say SK and daggers are easy to play..
I'm curious about how u're gonna play with a SK for example.. U have those debuffs and those skills.. but the question is .. do u know what and when to use them? remember SK isn't HE or Necro.. so u need to concentrate all the time on "What's the next step?What will be?What should I do after" Trust me.. if u're sayng SK with 9 possible debuffs aggresion and drains it's easy to play on PvP/Olympiad/or Mass PvP than.. go make a SK on low rates become a hero and send me a screenshot.

Its true the only easy-to-use class in this game...*archers*
they are like trick ponies, hit-n-run nothing more,yes they have skills but who gives mp and time to use them? double shots and stun shots THATS most of the archer story ...but on the other hand...they rule on official xD

becoming a hero implies getting to nobless first and having a lot of spare time.i play on low rate server. however SK can be a BIT harder to play with but not in any case daggers.you have to really be retarded not to know how to play a dagger.for the love of god.kite and blow!

You made this personel. noobie thing.

Thats just like beagentleman told. Try a pvp on blow>run and get pwnt on 5 secs

O rly? Then why you dont know nothing about 70% of the classes (but still tries to look wise)? Botting?

And low rate how much? To some ppl 15x means low... To me 3x

i play on 4x and i don't bot

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Just be careful, the daggers aren't really easy to play. Ever played dota? It's like that: you are 1 second too late and you are either stunned, rooted, w/e, you're just fucked if you do it wrong vs an experienced player.

Sk? It's one of the hardest classes to play. "To make miracles a pro needs a drop of luck" someone said (i can't remember who but it was on this forum a/w). You ever wonder why you don't see: abyss walkers, shilien knights, paladins, destroyers, phantom rangers and temple knights? Maybe not temple knights necesarily, but these are the hardest classes to play.

the answer is simple: people always seek the easiest classes to play with.and to quote icarus : it's like dota.(next part is for those who know what dota is) : everybody knows how to play sniper (archer) or lion/lina (necromancer) but few know how to own with alchemist (sort of tank) etc.
so few play glads, tyrants, bishops, ee, ol etc.

Now thats what i call a complete no-lifer

hahaha

^_^

I'm confuse now ^^; I'm not sure that you are joke about glad is pro because I play a glad and I think it's not too pro

but if pro mean that class have a lot of skill which can be use often I agree

95% of the GLs i know NEVER use their stun skill.....ffs

As i said before the player makes the toon not the opposite.

Ranged combat will aways have advantages as long we live in this 3 dimensional world (11 dimensions for me ) when i say ranged i also include
fast moving toons like the daggers cause if you can cover large distances in short time then yes you are ranged.

Oh really??? Try playing Paladin and then tell me an SK or gladiator is hard to handle... believe me... all the characters u mentionned above I had them all...and paladin is the harder to play (but godly when used correctly) tyrant is a pain too... but SK and gladiator isnt that hard to play believe me... not a good character to start game... but not the hardest...

EDIT: About the dyes... u can use the ones mentioned above for PVE... but dont EVER even think about using them to pvp... I think -4 CON is too much for a SR... so -8 CON is simply suicide...
personally I use +4DEX -4STR +1DEX -1STR +4WIT -4INT dyes, and tallum plate set... more p.def, more atk speed (excellent to cancel nuker's skills), pretty decent p.atk, highest critical... etc... however if you can afford draconic leather go 4 it...

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Evasion on archers? Niet. +5 dex really helps, but watch the attack damage. -8 con means 28 con which 1 above a necro's con if i'm not mistaking, so... DAMN RIGHT IT'S SIUCIDE.

I just want to mention: I recommend he for a newbie. It's too slow. You do crap in last man standing with it.