if u would read my post and be more civilized person you wont just reply my post with bad words , you didn't even played hellbound that's for sure
ok ill write again for some blind people : slug and crusher don't remove the vortex debuffs , it just replaces it with Slug or crusher debuff which is the same to vortex only it lasts 7-10 seconds don't know for sure never counted lol

if you still didn't get it maybe this will help you :
surrender + nuke = 1k damage
surrender +vortex +nuke = 1,5k dmg
surrender + slug + nuker = 1,5 dmg only that it lasts less time

i havent played good hb serv sph.. when i tested it at hb it deleted the debuff effect and nothing else.. ok excuse me i didnt know about the debuffing eff of the slug since hb

slug/crusher just replaces vortex icon from buff bar and has same attributes i mean you deal the same damage with hurricane or hydro while it is on the target , only bad thing is that will be gone faster than the vortex
i know this for sure because i had many slugs on me and crushers , and when i played sps if i used crusher , the target would still have the -30% speed

WHO said that it cancels vortex'es slow? Because i didn't. What do you prefer, to give him a 17 second slow or a 7 second slow? That's called ruining the debuff. You think you can kill him in 7 seconds? Try to understand my post before talking.

@Kormag: i didn't interpret your post well. It's my fault too. Nothing to it.

yea actually slug/vortex casting speed is so fast and it deals more damage than vortex , so -10 secs for a fast and huge amount of damage worths it

Another time I agree with Kent, I mean some things in the game are only true with deep testing experience, and are not exactly the same as what the numbers states in theory or the explanation icon in game, unfortunately for all of us Only our own experience may show us the truth

b4 starting asslicking and spreading ur philosophy read this

sh has slow on 3 effect not 6 also sh slow has 600 range
frost bolt effect 2 but range 900 + some dmg from nuke(kormag)

And what difference does it make if you cast it 7 seconds after?

after 7 seconds the target will be already dead imo by hydro/ hurricane , why not use this powerful skill vortex slug/crusher ?

and if he turns some UD,blokade skill?PLIX PLOX NO KILL ME!

I know it's a bit oftopic, but I'd like to ask about vortex slug. From what I red here, I get it that this spell is used against targets which are under effect of some vortex and casting vortex slug will deal additional damage, but decrease the time of vortex debuff, am I right?

Anyway, I'd agree with +int+wit//-men and +con/-str dyes. I prefer to have a bit more HP/CP to not get killed by 1 sneaky gladiator with TSS reused rather than running around like crazy and if you want to get the most profit from dyes, you should try to rise rise statistics that are already high, becouse bonus you receive will be percentual.

Edit: And one more thing: as IL came to our server, daggers (especialy TH) have a chance to perform lethal strike on all their skills and I'd like to ask if it's normal that lethal strike can reduce both your HP and CP to 1. (funny to see one PiPi-buffed TH to kill 2 glads with dances+pipi-buffs with 2 skills and 2 normal hits)

bullseye

2 glads with dances and PP buffs killed by TH ..... lol .... what kind of idiot glads are those , yr server must be bugged or players are extremely noob

lethal chance... if its supa high its normal maybe its luck... 2 skills for 2 glads

i remember i raided baium alone with my th

gtfo with your TH and your stupid servers , i know those kind of servers where u get all vampiric buffs ,boss jwlz and u can kill valakas alone