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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:52 am 
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It has instant cast but how does it land on a destro?

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An do you know guts is not stacking with frenzy? Glan can just outrun destro while guts efferct is on, then kill him >.>

Do you know the term 'finite mana'? The destro in guts is walking ud. A smart glad will run, because seriously, he musn't run out of mana. If the destro has zealot, the glad has nowhere to go with his -9 dex, even if the destro didn't have zealot the glad's speed would be lower. Glads are NOT build for running except sonic move's 15 seconds.

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I dunno about trance/manaburn, you'll kinda run out of mp if you keep doing that and the gladi rly have good buffs/accessiories. You need a high matk and mcrit rate, that's for sure.

About destro: if she/he uses frenzy, a smart gladi will deal it down by a few skills, so the FR is out of the question, maybe if stun lands.
With guts the destro will have extremely high pdef, yes, but not more patk. And a destro has an extremely spooty dps with only fatal strike/crush of doom. The speed, well, the destro has 26 dex, the glad 21, not a big deal, especially if the glad dashes away, coz I dunno why would a glad use dash b4 the pvp starts between them.


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LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

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I dunno about trance/manaburn, you'll kinda run out of mp if you keep doing that and the gladi rly have good buffs/accessiories. You need a high matk and mcrit rate, that's for sure.

About destro: if she/he uses frenzy, a smart gladi will deal it down by a few skills, so the FR is out of the question, maybe if stun lands.
With guts the destro will have extremely high pdef, yes, but not more patk. And a destro has an extremely spooty dps with only fatal strike/crush of doom. The speed, well, the destro has 26 dex, the glad 21, not a big deal, especially if the glad dashes away, coz I dunno why would a glad use dash b4 the pvp starts between them.


do u know such words as reuse,pvp terms(buffs maybe?) zealot maybe?
smart destroes use guts first..not fr


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Okay, but a destro is not famous for it's high dps, what could she/he do with more pdef while the damage is not so big?
This depends on the player again, I would run away with dash if guts' on and spam all the skills when FR is on.


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some glads (ive seen 'em) activate weapon blockade when u think u activate fr
thats ur chance:Dguts and u r the man!


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tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?

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atlant448 wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?


never heard of NOT NOOB destro?never heard of guts and later fking frienzy?


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GoDs3nD wrote:
Powah wrote:
atlant448 wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?


never heard of NOT NOOB destro?never heard of guts and later fking frienzy?


NO its no point of using 1st guts and later frenzy cuz it will be too late

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It wont dude.. ask paagrio


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the hole idea of guts is to drasticly increase ur stand time. Oh and in any casem if u use gut or frenzy, also use after battle roar, zealot and bravehart. instead of using frenzy i actualy prefer guts+zelot

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GoDs3nD wrote:
Powah wrote:
atlant448 wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?


never heard of NOT NOOB destro?never heard of guts and later fking frienzy?


Lmao smart gladi gonna just run and w8 till guts turns off. Destros dmg with guts only is lol, glad is faster btw + can use sonic move and outrun destro + hit him with rage till guts gets off.

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Powah wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Powah wrote:
atlant448 wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?


never heard of NOT NOOB destro?never heard of guts and later fking frienzy?


Lmao smart gladi gonna just run and w8 till guts turns off. Destros dmg with guts only is lol, glad is faster btw + can use sonic move and outrun destro + hit him with rage till guts gets off.

xD nab ever heard of zealot?wtf!


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GoDs3nD wrote:
Powah wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Powah wrote:
atlant448 wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard of zealot ?

LOLLOLOLOLOL never heard about ripost stance, reflect damage buff and skill chain while destro hit you?


never heard of NOT NOOB destro?never heard of guts and later fking frienzy?


Lmao smart gladi gonna just run and w8 till guts turns off. Destros dmg with guts only is lol, glad is faster btw + can use sonic move and outrun destro + hit him with rage till guts gets off.

xD nab ever heard of zealot?wtf!


ROFL kk use zealot with guts, then what u gonna use with FR ???

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well i think a good gladi first spam his skills, and when he thinks destro will use guts or frenzy or zealot he just uses weapon blockade...then another chain of skills...if that works its easy for the gladi. If not:
1. destro will frenzy and gladi spams his skills again...then destro dead
2. destro will guts, gladi will run, destro use zealot, gladi still running and activating sonic move...then run all the way with then w/o sonic move...then destro guts end (after a long run), then he activates frenzy, gladi spams his skills, destro dead.
3.same as the 2. but here destro will use zealot when hes going frenzy well...same as above gladi spams skills destro dead.

note: forgot to mention when destro uses frenzy gladi turns riposte stance on

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