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vawned add FEEDED before bish/ee

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summa summarum maybe a manaburner can kill him trance+manaburn, maybe a pa/da can kill him or maybe a titan..or a good pro dagger. maybe we can add sps, and necro too(if the curse lands).... i think these are the classas that have a chance against gladi

btw: i never had a gladi :). just made one and it's quite good

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ffs dudes they cant mana burn him...gladi got lionheart +passives + IS + toggle....


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ffs dudes they cant mana burn him...gladi got lionheart +passives + IS + toggle....


++Passives for what?

Human Warriors don't have passive Magic Resistance.

And Lionheart just works for one minute.
If the gladiator turn Lionheart on, and the foe sleep it. It will wait till lionheart goes out, so start the mana burn.

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What does lionheart have to do with mana burn?
And, mana burn is m att vs m def and can crit.

Once, i got mana drained for 1700 on my AW on Azure...
Which pretty much was end-game :p

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tsakpinis wrote:
LOLLOLOLOLOL as smart gladi with dash will NEVER NEVER NEVER lose from a destro...
:))) lol u play on a bugged server... u say he uses riposte stance.... did u know destro has has a skill called guts? it increases points def( the famous walking UD) so dont lololol me, u dont know shit destro pwnz glad, besides u know that skill consumes mana? so that means that if glad usses his fukin skills 3 times riposte stance will hold for about 20 seconds max


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mariosxx wrote:
What does lionheart have to do with mana burn?
And, mana burn is m att vs m def and can crit.

Once, i got mana drained for 1700 on my AW on Azure...
Which pretty much was end-game :p


I think he is telling that a Glad can't be manaburned cause he has Lionheart, and Lionheart will not allow you be affected by SLEEP. So, It will be harder to someone manaburn you w/o sleeping you.

But even without Trance/Dreaming Spirit. The mana Burn still works.

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Necro got even lower chance....reflecting cod?
But okay, war frenzy+lionheart makes you a god, understood....
That's why got owned so many glads on IL?
And tranced glad 79/tate+3 with my 74EE/valhalla+4 by 35%chance?

powah, glad is not the perfection, it has good chances in pvps, but it's a spooty char if it gets held or slept. If that happens, the pvp is over, or just extremely slow. Again this needs luck, but as I see from your posts, glad has 101%sleep/root res.
That lionheart and war frenzy of yours just replaces the magic resistance that warrior classes are lack of.

Sonic barrier can make sure of the pvp, but the bishop has her/his own celestial shield too.

People's experience is just that buffers can't own anything, because buffers mostly are not well-equiped. But an A/S-grade equipped buffer can make wonders.


Dude i agree with you. But u sleep him, burn all mana and what now. U face with 4+k cp and ~7,5k hp with 1000 p def and he still can deal pretty good dmg in close combat (buffs, weapon mastery and propably better weapon than urs) + glad can takes much more CP pots - i'm talking about normal pvp because on oli buffers (especially pp) > all.
Ahh and i forgot, dont forget tht u need heal urself instead of mana burning otherwise u risk ur life.


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Smile)) lol u play on a bugged server... u say he uses riposte stance.... did u know destro has has a skill called guts?


An do you know guts is not stacking with frenzy? Glan can just outrun destro while guts efferct is on, then kill him >.>

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Vawned wrote:
If the gladiator turn Lionheart on, and the foe sleep it. It will wait till lionheart goes out, so start the mana burn.


Did that and it works.

Also, 1 sleep and I simply heal my self up from the wounds taken by the glad's skills. Again there's windshackle and blockww what you might cast during the w8ing, if ripose stance's on, who cares if you get blockww or shackle, you won't hit until glad's mp is out and you can recast ww.

So there are chances to defeat a glad with a buffer.

WC is rather going for hp, sleep and hpdrains+w8ing and in the end, lot's of vamp, but I think it has lower chances though it can defeat the glad earlier coz of the patktoggle and best mystic combat stats.


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I found an interesting interlude update http://www.lineage2.com/news/interlude_03.html
"Mana Burn and Mana Storm now awaken a target under the Sleep effect."
If this works, the mana burner shall root instead, or run and heal himself until gladi's mana is over...

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AFAIK reuse and cast speed of mana burn has been increased since IL or CT1. Imo SE has highest chances because of empower (bigest chance to land root) and block shield.... oly ofc.

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Hm, this awakening didn't work ever for me. Maybe it's like this "wth they did with the summoners" stuff, somewhere it works, somewhere it doesn't.

If it works, then powah is right. SE/PP has the highest chance, SE especially in oly.


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yes this is true mana burn awake the target

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Yes it Awake, but you know the casting spd of Trance...

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Yeah, Mana Burn awakes the target, but thats not a big problem since Trance has like instant cast. I beated a doom cryer that way with my elven elder, it was pretty long fight but he couldnt stun or drain me =P


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