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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:42 pm 
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hi i have a question.......
i know then + STR increase P. atak and !Critical skill rate!.....but i wont know how much...... i dont know..... +1 STR = + 1%,+ 10% skill crit rate? +5 STR= + 5%,50% (:-))?......
then my question:
1. Do anybody know for how much increase cri. rate pover on +1 STR, +2 STR, +3 STR ........??? Or know you adresse on calculator on it?
2. it increase skill crit rate on all class same?..... (or (for example.) +1 STR increase +10% skill reate on gladiator and +1 STR increase +5% skill rate on HE)

i realy wont/need know 1. question, so who have any idea tell it pls :-)

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Liu wrote:
hi i have a question.......
i know then + STR increase P. atak and !Critical skill rate!.....but i wont know how much...... i dont know..... +1 STR = + 1%,+ 10% skill crit rate? +5 STR= + 5%,50% (:-))?......
then my question:
1. Do anybody know for how much increase cri. rate pover on +1 STR, +2 STR, +3 STR ........??? Or know you adresse on calculator on it?
2. it increase skill crit rate on all class same?..... (or (for example.) +1 STR increase +10% skill reate on gladiator and +1 STR increase +5% skill rate on HE)

i realy wont/need know 1. question, so who have any idea tell it pls :-)

/Sorry for my English/


you got it all wrong , STR does not increase skill crit rate

STR increase those kind of double damage on skill like 2xtriple sonic slash

it doesn't write Critical Hit! on that kind of damage , but you can do a critical hit and double damage in the same time on a skill :P like Critical hit! you hit for 10k damage game over :D

i know this because i play gladiator myself and i tested


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Giseraec wrote:
Liu wrote:
hi i have a question.......
i know then + STR increase P. atak and !Critical skill rate!.....but i wont know how much...... i dont know..... +1 STR = + 1%,+ 10% skill crit rate? +5 STR= + 5%,50% (:-))?......
then my question:
1. Do anybody know for how much increase cri. rate pover on +1 STR, +2 STR, +3 STR ........??? Or know you adresse on calculator on it?
2. it increase skill crit rate on all class same?..... (or (for example.) +1 STR increase +10% skill reate on gladiator and +1 STR increase +5% skill rate on HE)

i realy wont/need know 1. question, so who have any idea tell it pls :-)

/Sorry for my English/


you got it all wrong , STR does not increase skill crit rate

STR increase those kind of double damage on skill like 2xtriple sonic slash

it doesn't write Critical Hit! on that kind of damage , but you can do a critical hit and double damage in the same time on a skill :P like Critical hit! you hit for 10k damage game over :D

i know this because i play gladiator myself and i tested


i ask becouse i play gladiator too :-P
i thing/thought then STR increaste Crit skill rate (duble dmg on skill (it dont write then crit rate but is 2x bigerr dmg))
you tell then skill can do duble dmg and! + crit (next duble dmg)......
example - you tell - normal skill - 1k dmg..... duble dmg 2k dmg.....and crit skill - of end 4 k dmg?.....
and STR increase duble dmg?........
i dont know but you tell one thing on two.....duble dmg is crit skill........then of end is only 2 k dmg....then STR increase skill crit rate....... but i don meaning it.... i wont know for how much increase :-)


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Liu wrote:
Giseraec wrote:
Liu wrote:
hi i have a question.......
i know then + STR increase P. atak and !Critical skill rate!.....but i wont know how much...... i dont know..... +1 STR = + 1%,+ 10% skill crit rate? +5 STR= + 5%,50% (:-))?......
then my question:
1. Do anybody know for how much increase cri. rate pover on +1 STR, +2 STR, +3 STR ........??? Or know you adresse on calculator on it?
2. it increase skill crit rate on all class same?..... (or (for example.) +1 STR increase +10% skill reate on gladiator and +1 STR increase +5% skill rate on HE)

i realy wont/need know 1. question, so who have any idea tell it pls :-)

/Sorry for my English/


you got it all wrong , STR does not increase skill crit rate

STR increase those kind of double damage on skill like 2xtriple sonic slash

it doesn't write Critical Hit! on that kind of damage , but you can do a critical hit and double damage in the same time on a skill :P like Critical hit! you hit for 10k damage game over :D

i know this because i play gladiator myself and i tested


i ask becouse i play gladiator too :-P
i thing/thought then STR increaste Crit skill rate (duble dmg on skill (it dont write then crit rate but is 2x bigerr dmg))
you tell then skill can do duble dmg and! + crit (next duble dmg)......
example - you tell - normal skill - 1k dmg..... duble dmg 2k dmg.....and crit skill - of end 4 k dmg?.....
and STR increase duble dmg?........
i dont know but you tell one thing on two.....duble dmg is crit skill........then of end is only 2 k dmg....then STR increase skill crit rate....... but i don meaning it.... i wont know for how much increase :-)


man i will explain u fast and simple

let's take triple sonic slash , you hit 1 target with it :

-normal hit = 1000 damage

-double damage on skill = 2000

-critical hit = 4000

-double damage on critical skill = 8000

STR increaseses double damage chance on skill , not critical rate on skill

i see double damages all the time when i farm since im with +8 STR ( bw heavy and +5str dye ) , and i got plenty of double damages on a critical skill ..... it hurts


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:42 pm 
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yes.
why not ?
or +3ste +2 con - 5 dex for stability

That's not good. If you still cut 5 dex, why don't you maximise another stat? In 3 str and 2 con you don't get full bonuses. If you don't want to lower too much dex, i'd only go for +5 con -5 dex.

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i thing then best dyes are +3 str -3 dex and +2 str - 2 con
ok then str increase duble dmg.......
then i have two queston :-) ......
from which chronicle STR increase duble dmg ( i thing C4/C5)?
and - for how much ( in %) increase duble dmg when i do +5 str?


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Liu wrote:
i thing then best dyes are +3 str -3 dex and +2 str - 2 con
ok then str increase duble dmg.......
then i have two queston :-) ......
from which chronicle STR increase duble dmg ( i thing C4/C5)?
and - for how much ( in %) increase duble dmg when i do +5 str?


nah thats a bad setup

for pve i use +5str +4dex -con and bw heavy set

and for pvp +5con+4str -9dex , dex is useless since i got buffs in mass pvp , and i got prophecy of wind from my SE :D <3

and i dont know what is the chance for double damage if u add STR , but it makes alot of difference , i do double damages on skills alot


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Str adds skill crit rate -> that's your skill double damage.

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Icarus wrote:
Str adds skill crit rate -> that's your skill double damage.


you are wrong , skill crit rate is one thing and the doubledamage is another thing

it shows when u make critical on a skill like Critical hit! , but when you make double damage it doesn't show , you just feel it :D


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That's your skill crt. When you look into your chat/system log and see loldamage.

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yes i thing too then your duble dmg = is skill crit ....it doesnt write but your dmg is bigger ......
but know anybody for how much increase skill crit rate /duble dmg rate +1 STR/+2 STR/+3 STR......./+5 STR ? or know any body some calculator on it?
i search about internet on google and lineages free/official web but i dont see anything about it ..........


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That's your skill crt. When you look into your chat/system log and see loldamage.


no no , you are wrong man

Critical skill damage can be increased by buffs (death whisper , dance of fire) , while the double damage is just double damage it doesn't even show you if you do it or not , i just see it in dmg and on mobs HP

when you make 1k damage there is a chance for 2k damage

when you make 5k damage on a skill critical hit , there is a chance to be double 10k damage

and that chance is influenced by STR


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and do you know how much? how much increased +5 STR in % chance to duble dmg?


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and do you know how much? how much increased +5 STR in % chance to duble dmg?


no one knows


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No clue. But word on the street says 47 str = 25% chance.

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