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nonelikeme
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Duelist...simply th cant own duelist its the only class that th simply cant hav a little chance to win

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ON YESTERDAY I WAS ON MAH ABYSS WALKER WHEN FCKING TH WITH KRIS (LOL B GRADE)WAS RUNNING NEAR ME(IM LVL 43)SO I KILLED ON NOOB DESTRO,THIS TH WANNABE RUNS TO ME,TRYS TO KILL ME,AND DIED HAHAHA NOONE CAN FCKING BEAT AN AW

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so on your server th is overpowered try a th if you dont like him then try tyrant ( natural enemy of all daggers ) tank class OL high hp chars ( Titan ) or a necro debuff him and kill him :))


why u always say th is overpowered?? u cant admit that th is one of the best pvp classes?

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ON YESTERDAY I WAS ON MAH ABYSS WALKER WHEN FCKING TH WITH KRIS (LOL B GRADE)WAS RUNNING NEAR ME(IM LVL 43)SO I KILLED ON NOOB DESTRO,THIS TH WANNABE RUNS TO ME,TRYS TO KILL ME,AND DIED HAHAHA NOONE CAN FCKING BEAT AN AW

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nonelikeme wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
so on your server th is overpowered try a th if you dont like him then try tyrant ( natural enemy of all daggers ) tank class OL high hp chars ( Titan ) or a necro debuff him and kill him :))


why u always say th is overpowered?? u cant admit that th is one of the best pvp classes?


lol, nothing like that! The topic started said that th is overpowered, that he has very high M.def and bluff lands 100% (this is OP)

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nonelikeme wrote:
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so on your server th is overpowered try a th if you dont like him then try tyrant ( natural enemy of all daggers ) tank class OL high hp chars ( Titan ) or a necro debuff him and kill him :))


why u always say th is overpowered?? u cant admit that th is one of the best pvp classes?

the th is good i know that i played it and i like the class but considering bluff lands 100% he kills in 2 skills and has high stats is just overpowerment and i bet the server is l2j
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Sekkurel wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
so on your server th is overpowered try a th if you dont like him then try tyrant ( natural enemy of all daggers ) tank class OL high hp chars ( Titan ) or a necro debuff him and kill him :))


why u always say th is overpowered?? u cant admit that th is one of the best pvp classes?

the th is good i know that i played it and i like the class but considering bluff lands 100% he kills in 2 skills and has high stats is just overpowerment and i bet the server is l2j


bluff 100%...ofc it's L2j

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Bluff base landrate: 40%
Depends on con.
Not magic.
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ok u right on l2j bluff works for 90% not 100% but this it work for aw and pw too not only for th so not only th is overpowered all daggers are

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ON YESTERDAY I WAS ON MAH ABYSS WALKER WHEN FCKING TH WITH KRIS (LOL B GRADE)WAS RUNNING NEAR ME(IM LVL 43)SO I KILLED ON NOOB DESTRO,THIS TH WANNABE RUNS TO ME,TRYS TO KILL ME,AND DIED HAHAHA NOONE CAN FCKING BEAT AN AW

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Yeah, AW can own Th.
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nonelikeme wrote:
ok u right on l2j bluff works for 90% not 100% but this it work for aw and pw too not only for th so not only th is overpowered all daggers are

yes but the th and aw have same land rate on skills meaning the 1 with the bigger hp wins so yes th is overpowered
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Sekkurel wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
ok u right on l2j bluff works for 90% not 100% but this it work for aw and pw too not only for th so not only th is overpowered all daggers are

yes but the th and aw have same land rate on skills meaning the 1 with the bigger hp wins so yes th is overpowered


excuse me my friend but the aw has focus death ;)

and they don't have the same land rate because:
the max DEX the TH can reach without clothes is 35.
the max DEX the AW can reach without clothes is 39.
Still the AW rocks everything on low-mid rates. And some balanced high rates(this is verry rare :D)

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aditzu wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
ok u right on l2j bluff works for 90% not 100% but this it work for aw and pw too not only for th so not only th is overpowered all daggers are

yes but the th and aw have same land rate on skills meaning the 1 with the bigger hp wins so yes th is overpowered


excuse me my friend but the aw has focus death ;)

and they don't have the same land rate because:
the max DEX the TH can reach without clothes is 35.
the max DEX the AW can reach without clothes is 39.
Still the AW rocks everything on low-mid rates. And some balanced high rates(this is verry rare :D)


a noob question...
DEX is STILL takes part on landing blows? cause somewhere (i dont remember where adn if it was accurate) i read that DEX is not longer modifier at % success of landing a blow.. enlight me plz :D
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Dex DOES NOT affect skill land rate lol.
That's on C4. C5+ it doesn't.

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Only str affect skill crit rate. What AW has 1 more:D

Bluff is like stun.
Depends on the lvl and con. Nothing else.
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mariosxx wrote:
Dex DOES NOT affect skill land rate lol.
That's on C4. C5+ it doesn't.


thnx. i knew that in older chronicles elf/delf daggers had the edge than TH cause they would never missed a blow (high dex), but i wasnt sure if they changed it 8)
Its a high boost for TH btw 8)
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Lhyno wrote:
Only str affect skill crit rate. What AW has 1 more:D


yeah, and most ppl decreases STR on daggers (mainly on TH), and I think an AW shouldnt decrease STR cos hes just fine (and I know u agree ^^), so, the AW will have more skill crit rate

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