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oops sry...u know u can end the sleep if u hit cat, even with wind strike.

oops, magic marrier+final servitor, 1200 M.def.

oops, king has root and 2 damage skills (i know its hard to land root on orc)

oops, I have 2 banes that will remove 4 buffs+one debuff that decreases ur already sh1ty casting (after banes)

oops, u have zerk and no shield, *Feline King hit you for 600 damage*

oops, u turn on soul guard, I forgot...30 seconds and no mana, then what?

oops, u drain, I forgot...u have mana for two drains

oops, u go with dagger and IC set? ok, ill keep runing and my king will keep hitting u

oops, u have debuffs? sry I dont care

oops, storm cubic hit u for 200 damage? ok, my bad

oops, u got paralyse from cubic? gf





STILL, HIEROPHANT KILLED US BOTH

Oops sorry, i'm not gonna hit the cat.
Oops sorry feline king with mbarrier + final servitor mdef = 765 (you're turning into marios)
Oops you won't land root on an ol.
Oops i can always rebuff if you got any crucial buff off.
Oops, what makes you think i have no shield... (what the hell was this, razveck!?)
Oops, 30 seconds no mana, so i was playing on shitty servers to keep up soul guard + soul cry + a bow and kite destroes to half hp and then run like a pussy in the arena, in order to win the pvp by time elimination. (that's 5 minutes)
Oops, i have enough mana to keep up steal essence for about 17 drains. (remember that i also have empower)
Oops, i go in blunt + acumen and dc robe set, you will run, i will catch you, i will seal your ass. (the cat will be lightly sealed too)
Oops, bad mistake, you should care if i land silence or suspention on you.
Oops the storm cubic attacks me if you attack me too -> better chances for me to catch you.
Oops, base para land rate sucks, and my mdef is high.


Now really, i don't think you know ol very well.


ORLY? I played OL almost since I started L2 till some months ago. I still play it on some high rates (ofc they have bugs).

But seriously, no flames. Warlock CAN kill OL. And to answer ur questions, u have no shield (blessing of paagrio) cos I messed it up with block wind walk (ive been playing SE lately), my bad. So, u dont have WW. And no, u wont have empower nor acumen, due to mage bane. And ur casting speed will be even lower due to arcan disruption. Yeah, u can buff, but I will do it over and over and if u have soul guard and u wanna drain, u will run out of mana pretty fast.

Lets see, all OL buffs are 200+ MP. Soul guard consumes, hmm idk, about 10 MP I think. Steal essence 177 MP. Even if u have ~4k MP, that leaves u with:

4000-280-284-188-204-204-237-188 (just mage buffs+vop) with fist is -284

without fist ull have 2415 MP, with fist u have 2131 MP (if these calculations are right :S)

which allows u to make 12 clear drains. Not if u have soul guard on. And if my bane removes ur empower, u wont do so much damage with drain -> u must drain more to make the same damage, but u cant cos u have no mana. Nad u say u will rebuff. So, ull rebuff emp+acu, thats -484, and if u rebuff WW, its -621, which will leave u with 1794/1510, which will allow u to do 8 drains (im not taking into account the already spent mana on drains and soul guard), so with soul guard, lets say u can make 6 drains. But dont forget I will keep baning u. Also, dont forget, as u said u wouldnt attack cat, u will be running after me, and ur only chance to cast is when I come close to cast banes or arcane disruption, but ur casting speed will be so low (and cat speed will be uber), so cat will catch u, I will attempt root, if it fails i dont care, if cat deal u one hit ill be happy.

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HP 5758_________CP 4405
MP 3405

P.Atk. 479_______M.Atk. 993
P.Def. 1447______M.Def. 1363
Accuracy 118_____Evasion 109
Critical 49________Speed 107
Atk. Spd. 472_____Casting Spd. 469

this is with dc robe, dyes +4WIT -4MEN, +4CON -4STR
after banes (no emp, no acu, no WW) and arcane disruption. Also, with only spiritshots, u will take long to cast drain, my cat will eventualy interrupt u, and even if he doesnt, ur drain wont hurt me much in my 1k M.def.

I calculated every stat witht he info u gave me, I dunno about the dyes u use, but with +4DEX u would have only 111 speed, so its not much of a difference, since ill have 121 with tallum robe and 128 with dc

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razveck wrote:
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oops sry...u know u can end the sleep if u hit cat, even with wind strike.

oops, magic marrier+final servitor, 1200 M.def.

oops, king has root and 2 damage skills (i know its hard to land root on orc)

oops, I have 2 banes that will remove 4 buffs+one debuff that decreases ur already sh1ty casting (after banes)

oops, u have zerk and no shield, *Feline King hit you for 600 damage*

oops, u turn on soul guard, I forgot...30 seconds and no mana, then what?

oops, u drain, I forgot...u have mana for two drains

oops, u go with dagger and IC set? ok, ill keep runing and my king will keep hitting u

oops, u have debuffs? sry I dont care

oops, storm cubic hit u for 200 damage? ok, my bad

oops, u got paralyse from cubic? gf





STILL, HIEROPHANT KILLED US BOTH

Oops sorry, i'm not gonna hit the cat.
Oops sorry feline king with mbarrier + final servitor mdef = 765 (you're turning into marios)
Oops you won't land root on an ol.
Oops i can always rebuff if you got any crucial buff off.
Oops, what makes you think i have no shield... (what the hell was this, razveck!?)
Oops, 30 seconds no mana, so i was playing on shitty servers to keep up soul guard + soul cry + a bow and kite destroes to half hp and then run like a pussy in the arena, in order to win the pvp by time elimination. (that's 5 minutes)
Oops, i have enough mana to keep up steal essence for about 17 drains. (remember that i also have empower)
Oops, i go in blunt + acumen and dc robe set, you will run, i will catch you, i will seal your ass. (the cat will be lightly sealed too)
Oops, bad mistake, you should care if i land silence or suspention on you.
Oops the storm cubic attacks me if you attack me too -> better chances for me to catch you.
Oops, base para land rate sucks, and my mdef is high.


Now really, i don't think you know ol very well.


ORLY? I played OL almost since I started L2 till some months ago. I still play it on some high rates (ofc they have bugs).

But seriously, no flames. Warlock CAN kill OL. And to answer ur questions, u have no shield (blessing of paagrio) cos I messed it up with block wind walk (ive been playing SE lately), my bad. So, u dont have WW. And no, u wont have empower nor acumen, due to mage bane. And ur casting speed will be even lower due to arcan disruption. Yeah, u can buff, but I will do it over and over and if u have soul guard and u wanna drain, u will run out of mana pretty fast.

Lets see, all OL buffs are 200+ MP. Soul guard consumes, hmm idk, about 10 MP I think. Steal essence 177 MP. Even if u have ~4k MP, that leaves u with:

4000-280-284-188-204-204-237-188 (just mage buffs+vop) with fist is -284

without fist ull have 2415 MP, with fist u have 2131 MP (if these calculations are right :S)

which allows u to make 12 clear drains. Not if u have soul guard on. And if my bane removes ur empower, u wont do so much damage with drain -> u must drain more to make the same damage, but u cant cos u have no mana. Nad u say u will rebuff. So, ull rebuff emp+acu, thats -484, and if u rebuff WW, its -621, which will leave u with 1794/1510, which will allow u to do 8 drains (im not taking into account the already spent mana on drains and soul guard), so with soul guard, lets say u can make 6 drains. But dont forget I will keep baning u. Also, dont forget, as u said u wouldnt attack cat, u will be running after me, and ur only chance to cast is when I come close to cast banes or arcane disruption, but ur casting speed will be so low (and cat speed will be uber), so cat will catch u, I will attempt root, if it fails i dont care, if cat deal u one hit ill be happy.

FACTS:

HP 5758_________CP 4405
MP 3405

P.Atk. 479_______M.Atk. 993
P.Def. 1447______M.Def. 1363
Accuracy 118_____Evasion 109
Critical 49________Speed 107
Atk. Spd. 472_____Casting Spd. 469

this is with dc robe, dyes +4WIT -4MEN, +4CON -4STR
after banes (no emp, no acu, no WW) and arcane disruption. Also, with only spiritshots, u will take long to cast drain, my cat will eventualy interrupt u, and even if he doesnt, ur drain wont hurt me much in my 1k M.def.

I calculated every stat witht he info u gave me, I dunno about the dyes u use, but with +4DEX u would have only 111 speed, so its not much of a difference, since ill have 121 with tallum robe and 128 with dc


dude ? warlock kills OL ? warlock eats OL in oly , actually it's damn easy mage bane + arcane disruption = gg

and about the mana thing ... well u wont consume it all usually the cat kills you first , u must not forget OL wears robe


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u must forget that OL wears robe, cause OL wears IC

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Breal wrote:
u must forget that OL wears robe, cause OL wears IC


since ?


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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u must forget that OL wears robe, cause OL wears IC


since ?


since in oly rape his ass when he is in robe

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@razveck: BE SERIOUS. You think that if a sps cancels me i will fully buff up again? No. I get mage bane -> empower is enough. And SINCE WHEN DOES THE WARLOCK HAVE BLOCK WIND WALK FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!

Ol + dc robe = 3360 mana. Soul guard consumes very little mp per tick. What if i told you that your summon 'accidentally' got slowed, or worse, rooted? You know that the summon's low mdef makes it weak to seals. What if i told you that i DO posess stun and soul cry, and i am a hardass melee too? Don't tell me you're gonna outspam my damage, because they all say that and it's not likely.

If i don't use soul guard, that means almost 19 drains. Your mage bane's reuse isn't instant, so the thing with 'i'll bane you again and again' kinda fades. And i repeat: if i get mage bane, empower and keep rolling if i plan to use magic. And remember that i can also feed my hp on the summon, but it's more worth it if i use it on you.

Now let's say i accidentally land slow on you. What if i land silence? What if i land suspension? What happens then?
If silence lands, i quickly need to figure out if empower is there. If it's there, perfect, i get on your ass and replenish my hp on you. You will have transfer pain on right? But what if i told you that transfer pain in this case can be beneficial for me to make sure you have no chances to win? If silence lands, i will get on your ass and do my worst. The summon takes damage too. After i fuck you up a bit i begin thinking, like man the summon must be weak. What's next? Smack the summon. I'd like to see you resummon and rebuff.

The warlock isn't an ol eater, drop it. An overlord that knows what he's doing can do much.

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NAHHHH NOBS,ol pawns summoners in oly...its soooooo damit easy....wearing DC ROBE set tetosian/Rb jwl and arcana mace acumen,+4wit-4men +4 str-4dex +4 con -4 dex powns all,its easy,before the fight u wear a weapon -conversion-30%hp +60% mp,u reacharge all ur mana,go to oly with conversion weapon equiped,u buff urself then u equip arcana mace with acumen so ur hp will be normal and u will get all the buffs + full mana for drains and seals,then,u sleep the summon,i have 900 casting speed with this combination so dreaming spirit its almost instant skill,then u try silence/root the summoner,eventualy root the summon to then use hammer crush,the drain drain drain,congrauatsulations,u have defeated xxcutaricaxx and gained 20 points,yay,OL hero again \:D/ xDDDD hope this helped all the OL-players,screw the summoners =D (anyways he cant paralyse u or debuff,i got 2200 p def and 1600 m def with +8 stuff in oly..+ thoughtness,orc bless :D) GL And have fun,hope this helped u alot


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Cedas wrote:
NAHHHH NOBS,ol pawns summoners in oly...its soooooo damit easy....wearing DC ROBE set tetosian/Rb jwl and arcana mace acumen,+4wit-4men +4 str-4dex +4 con -4 dex powns all,its easy,before the fight u wear a weapon -conversion-30%hp +60% mp,u reacharge all ur mana,go to oly with conversion weapon equiped,u buff urself then u equip arcana mace with acumen so ur hp will be normal and u will get all the buffs + full mana for drains and seals,then,u sleep the summon,i have 900 casting speed with this combination so dreaming spirit its almost instant skill,then u try silence/root the summoner,eventualy root the summon to then use hammer crush,the drain drain drain,congrauatsulations,u have defeated xxcutaricaxx and gained 20 points,yay,OL hero again \:D/ xDDDD hope this helped all the OL-players,screw the summoners =D (anyways he cant paralyse u or debuff,i got 2200 p def and 1600 m def with +8 stuff in oly..+ thoughtness,orc bless :D) GL And have fun,hope this helped u alot


NAHHHH dont make us laugh at your first post in the forum ok ?

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SINCE WHEN DOES THE WARLOCK HAVE BLOCK WIND WALK FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!


He does have Warrior Bane which actually cuts off your Haste and Wind Walk.. still I'm pretty sure OL can and will win over a Warlock.


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Oops my mistake. I forgot it cancels ww too. :?

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no rly u got no chances against the banes , and arcane disruption


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Never ever say that the warlock is an ol eater. If the warlock wouldn't have reacted when he got sleeped, his summon was dead. And if the ol was a bit smarter, he would have realised that seal of binding on the summon and then sleeping the master is very important. That way you can kill his summon safely. And i don't see that sloooooooooow casting speed you were talking about. It's decent for a debuffed ol.

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Never ever say that the warlock is an ol eater. If the warlock wouldn't have reacted when he got sleeped, his summon was dead. And if the ol was a bit smarter, he would have realised that seal of binding on the summon and then sleeping the master is very important. That way you can kill his summon safely. And i don't see that sloooooooooow casting speed you were talking about. It's decent for a debuffed ol.


wtb feline king

anyway OL lost so i don't know what you are trying to say , any summoner would react to get away from sleep lmao


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Look, do you have problems? I said that if the ol wasn't a noob he would have tried to root the cat and sleep its master. Or sleep both and root the cat. That way the cat would have surely died.

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Wts mental shield weap.

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