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hmm i see your all for sk...then sk ftw :P
although he's a strong debuffer...the hex from the cubic or the poison will never land on a raid boss ;) and his con is way lower compared to a human that means lower pdef->healers mp get's lowered quicker am I right?


u r wrong again.. con doesnt influense the pdef..and poison has chance to land...as well as hex
dont forget also the fortitutde..


wtf? when I last saw the symbols on lineage2.com the p.def was influensed by CON :? nevermind...sry for mistakes xD if you all say so...sk ftw on rbp

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hmm i see your all for sk...then sk ftw :P
although he's a strong debuffer...the hex from the cubic or the poison will never land on a raid boss ;) and his con is way lower compared to a human that means lower pdef->healers mp get's lowered quicker am I right?


u r wrong again.. con doesnt influense the pdef..and poison has chance to land...as well as hex
dont forget also the fortitutde..


wtf? when I last saw the symbols on lineage2.com the p.def was influensed by CON :? nevermind...sry for mistakes xD if you all say so...sk ftw on rbp


wait a second:D dont agree cuz all say that!btw for some raids the sk is realy shi7y:Dlike stunners-->u cant change sets each time u go to raid right?so u dont have mj,nm,dc sets at x4 serv for example!


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the best party in Interlude(low rate) is:
1:WC
2:BD
3:random tank(NOT SK)
4:Bishop
5:Shilien Elder
6, 7, 8, 9:Nukers


THIS FORUM IS FULL OF NOOBS WHO DIDNT KILLED ANY RB....again for all best party in IL is: DC 78(cov)/bd/sws/bishop/wk(for queen bless)/4 destro 74+.....with only this party u can kill a rb in 5 min....and you dont need tank he is uselless...nukers the same se the same...


u may use any tank, even SK. he can tank as good as TK, DA or PA with no problems and no UD as long as the healer is doing his job


SK has the lowest hp of all tanks. And his usually used as an offensive tanker not an DEFENSIVE tanker. I would say paladin is za' best for RB parties. Me and some friends made the combination that I wrote and we made Golkonda for various drops in 3mins. We used necro's and sh's as nukers(curse death link).
And this is for nonlikeme: DONT CALL ME NOOB ANYMORE!!!!!!! your combination is also good but in interlude tank+bishop+nukers are the key. I saw once your combination and they killed a 77 raid boss in kinda...25min?! so they suck ass*


i was absent from forum a long period and again people start saying bulsh7..how to dont call you noob if all say in interlude u must raid with destro and full suport and you come and say my combination is good but not for interlude???selfowned dude....you didnt saw my combination if u say they killed a rb in 25 min u saw just some noobs...My combination slay a rb in 5 minutes.....a saw again some De lovers who say sk is the best tank for raid becuz he can debuff rb(lol)...the best rb tanker is tk becuz has self heals atractive cubic 100%shield defense rate and is very fast....the second is PA becuz of high con/self heals/angelic icon/great pdef

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nonelikeme wrote:
aditzu wrote:
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aditzu wrote:
the best party in Interlude(low rate) is:
1:WC
2:BD
3:random tank(NOT SK)
4:Bishop
5:Shilien Elder
6, 7, 8, 9:Nukers


THIS FORUM IS FULL OF NOOBS WHO DIDNT KILLED ANY RB....again for all best party in IL is: DC 78(cov)/bd/sws/bishop/wk(for queen bless)/4 destro 74+.....with only this party u can kill a rb in 5 min....and you dont need tank he is uselless...nukers the same se the same...


u may use any tank, even SK. he can tank as good as TK, DA or PA with no problems and no UD as long as the healer is doing his job


SK has the lowest hp of all tanks. And his usually used as an offensive tanker not an DEFENSIVE tanker. I would say paladin is za' best for RB parties. Me and some friends made the combination that I wrote and we made Golkonda for various drops in 3mins. We used necro's and sh's as nukers(curse death link).
And this is for nonlikeme: DONT CALL ME NOOB ANYMORE!!!!!!! your combination is also good but in interlude tank+bishop+nukers are the key. I saw once your combination and they killed a 77 raid boss in kinda...25min?! so they suck ass*


i was absent from forum a long period and again people start saying bulsh7..how to dont call you noob if all say in interlude u must raid with destro and full suport and you come and say my combination is good but not for interlude???selfowned dude....you didnt saw my combination if u say they killed a rb in 25 min u saw just some noobs...My combination slay a rb in 5 minutes.....a saw again some De lovers who say sk is the best tank for raid becuz he can debuff rb(lol)...the best rb tanker is tk becuz has self heals atractive cubic 100%shield defense rate and is very fast....the second is PA becuz of high con/self heals/angelic icon/great pdef


l0l man stop shi7ing me..every tank has is + and - ! for example ur stupid pa cant block attax from all directions...and stop fuking flame and show us ur vid!u have big mouth so far but no proof of ur powah... SELF OWNED


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but i saied tk is my first option and realy is the best for rb..P.S. when i start frap i hav lag and i cant do a good pvp

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GoDs3nD wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
aditzu wrote:
SkyLine wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
aditzu wrote:
the best party in Interlude(low rate) is:
1:WC
2:BD
3:random tank(NOT SK)
4:Bishop
5:Shilien Elder
6, 7, 8, 9:Nukers


THIS FORUM IS FULL OF NOOBS WHO DIDNT KILLED ANY RB....again for all best party in IL is: DC 78(cov)/bd/sws/bishop/wk(for queen bless)/4 destro 74+.....with only this party u can kill a rb in 5 min....and you dont need tank he is uselless...nukers the same se the same...


u may use any tank, even SK. he can tank as good as TK, DA or PA with no problems and no UD as long as the healer is doing his job


SK has the lowest hp of all tanks. And his usually used as an offensive tanker not an DEFENSIVE tanker. I would say paladin is za' best for RB parties. Me and some friends made the combination that I wrote and we made Golkonda for various drops in 3mins. We used necro's and sh's as nukers(curse death link).
And this is for nonlikeme: DONT CALL ME NOOB ANYMORE!!!!!!! your combination is also good but in interlude tank+bishop+nukers are the key. I saw once your combination and they killed a 77 raid boss in kinda...25min?! so they suck ass*


i was absent from forum a long period and again people start saying bulsh7..how to dont call you noob if all say in interlude u must raid with destro and full suport and you come and say my combination is good but not for interlude???selfowned dude....you didnt saw my combination if u say they killed a rb in 25 min u saw just some noobs...My combination slay a rb in 5 minutes.....a saw again some De lovers who say sk is the best tank for raid becuz he can debuff rb(lol)...the best rb tanker is tk becuz has self heals atractive cubic 100%shield defense rate and is very fast....the second is PA becuz of high con/self heals/angelic icon/great pdef


l0l man stop shi7ing me..every tank has is + and - ! for example ur stupid pa cant block attax from all directions...and stop fuking flame and show us ur vid!u have big mouth so far but no proof of ur powah... SELF OWNED


haha in the time nonlikeme was absent everyone is talking bullshi7 xD that was a good one.
yeah gods3nd your right...every tank(class) has +'s and -'s

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GoDs3nD wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
aditzu wrote:
SkyLine wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
aditzu wrote:
the best party in Interlude(low rate) is:
1:WC
2:BD
3:random tank(NOT SK)
4:Bishop
5:Shilien Elder
6, 7, 8, 9:Nukers


THIS FORUM IS FULL OF NOOBS WHO DIDNT KILLED ANY RB....again for all best party in IL is: DC 78(cov)/bd/sws/bishop/wk(for queen bless)/4 destro 74+.....with only this party u can kill a rb in 5 min....and you dont need tank he is uselless...nukers the same se the same...


u may use any tank, even SK. he can tank as good as TK, DA or PA with no problems and no UD as long as the healer is doing his job


SK has the lowest hp of all tanks. And his usually used as an offensive tanker not an DEFENSIVE tanker. I would say paladin is za' best for RB parties. Me and some friends made the combination that I wrote and we made Golkonda for various drops in 3mins. We used necro's and sh's as nukers(curse death link).
And this is for nonlikeme: DONT CALL ME NOOB ANYMORE!!!!!!! your combination is also good but in interlude tank+bishop+nukers are the key. I saw once your combination and they killed a 77 raid boss in kinda...25min?! so they suck ass*


i was absent from forum a long period and again people start saying bulsh7..how to dont call you noob if all say in interlude u must raid with destro and full suport and you come and say my combination is good but not for interlude???selfowned dude....you didnt saw my combination if u say they killed a rb in 25 min u saw just some noobs...My combination slay a rb in 5 minutes.....a saw again some De lovers who say sk is the best tank for raid becuz he can debuff rb(lol)...the best rb tanker is tk becuz has self heals atractive cubic 100%shield defense rate and is very fast....the second is PA becuz of high con/self heals/angelic icon/great pdef


l0l man stop shi7ing me..every tank has is + and - ! for example ur stupid pa cant block attax from all directions...and stop fuking flame and show us ur vid!u have big mouth so far but no proof of ur powah... SELF OWNED


aegis stance ftw

@nonelikeme: we dont want pvp fraps o_0

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omg aegis stance ftw?!loling around raz!-50%of the blocked dmg+mana drained all the time add here the hates that require mana too and ur tank is mana eater:D gogo!tk/sk ftw


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omg aegis stance ftw?!loling around raz!-50%of the blocked dmg+mana drained all the time add here the hates that require mana too and ur tank is mana eater:D gogo!tk/sk ftw


dude i think u have absolutly no idea what are u talking about... i have a 60lvl PA on frantz and i'm running arround with aegis stance and holy blade/holy armor always on and my mp is always at 100%. so before u start talking trash about a class go inform urself and not on buggy java servers..


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omg aegis stance ftw?!loling around raz!-50%of the blocked dmg+mana drained all the time add here the hates that require mana too and ur tank is mana eater:D gogo!tk/sk ftw


dude i think u have absolutly no idea what are u talking about... i have a 60lvl PA on frantz and i'm running arround with aegis stance and holy blade/holy armor always on and my mp is always at 100%. so before u start talking trash about a class go inform urself and not on buggy java servers..


true, well, about losing shield power, u will use it only when u are actualy being attacked from sides/behind. When u go on UD and u have RB+minions attacking u, u will use aegis stance, cos the minions will attack u from sides.

Overall, its like this (example):

normal hit -> 100 damage

shield def. -> 50 damage

shield def.+aegis -> 75 damage


Now, whats better? lets say u have 3 mobs attacking u. One in front and 2 in sides.

normal hits -> 300 damage

shield def. -> 250 damage

shield def.+aegis ->225 damage


woops, loling around!

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wait a second this stupid maths.. i hate it.. look now ill explain it bettaH
why should i pay mana per second for skill that i can have pasively?
why should i have -50% shield block power when i can have 100%?
AND WTF?! clueless! u can turn on all toggles and haved ~100% mana?ok
ill go now to search for some rechargers for me..
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Don't compare aegis to aegis stance... Aegis stance is something between, but think that you don't only sacrifice shield def power from behind, but you also sarifice it from front. And i think that calculation is fucked up. :|

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mengz, u didnt get it...TK is my favourite tank, Ill stand to TK to the end! Im just saying that a pala with aegis stance isnt that bad. And mana wont be a problem, even if ur regen cant make over for the mp consumption, the lost will be like 1-2 MP per tick, max!



no icarus, the maths aint fucked up (I think), think about it...it doesnt matter the direction on a "normal hit", but when u block, u only block at front. In my example its like this.

On shield block without aegis stance:

the front mob gives 50 damage, cos u blocked
but the side ones will still give 100 damage, cos ur shield cant block sides


On shield block with aegis stance:

all of them give 75 damage, cos u block them all, front and sides, but with less power

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wait wait wait shield has the same pdef like the whole armor set?


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No, shield can block as much as the whole armor set.

@razveck, my point is that shield defence power loss may act different. For example, if you half your own pdef, that doesn't mean you take 2 times more damage.

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