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Binturong
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>icarus> then its possible it was not correct on servers where i have played, but i dont think, every server i played it was 750 -.-

i think they have written it wrong on that site icarus, anyway, no offense, im just standing and supporting my knowledge about this.

Well, i think its hopeless to discuss, because we arent going to persuade each other, who is right or no, this topic is anyway about duelists, so this is not the point of discussion.


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the re-use delay is higher cause you use dual swords to turn it on = NORMAL speed. Dagger is Very fast > low re-use delay. And can I ask why everyone chose MJ instead of NM ?
stun rez?

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MJ>NM

a) stun resist
b) increasing STR


NM

does not increasing STR

glad + STR = ftw


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Stun resist +50 % and in the same time -2 CON.

You just cant wear this set at 78 lvl...

Meet one prophet in oly and eat his homunkulus acumen...

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best a grade heavy set for pve/pvp is tallum heavy set
actually gladiator has not stuning problems since he has 40 con(with tallum heavy set) and war frenzy/lion heart self buffs and at 77 riposte stance that has a chance to reflect debuffs to the caster such as stun shot/bluff

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PersonalJesus wrote:
best a grade heavy set for pve/pvp is tallum heavy set

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Tallum + Kesh*Kesh +4 : 75 lvl = 4108 HP and 3562 CP + 785 P.atk + 819 p def. Dye : +4 DEX -4 CON

NM heavy + Kesh*Dama +4 75 lvl = 7197 HP and 5074 CP + 799 P. atk + 860 p.def Dye : +4 CON - 4dex

Since on 75 lvl you will have DUelist spirit 2 lvl and you will try to defeat your opponent only with your skills the difference in the re-use delay for all physical skills between the faster gladiator and the other one will be 3-4 seconds. But the second one has 4k HP + CP more, more P def, more P atk - Guess who will win ? This can be your pvp setup for 75 lvl. IF you use NM heavy and you are a carebear use +4STR -4 CON for pve. DEX = useless for the gladiator. The calculations are with self buffs !

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Breal wrote:
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best a grade heavy set for pve/pvp is tallum heavy set

Sure

you dont agree with me right?

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PersonalJesus wrote:
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best a grade heavy set for pve/pvp is tallum heavy set

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you dont agree with me right?

ofc it i dont agree. It doesnt make sense to increase your DEX

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best a grade heavy set for pve/pvp is tallum heavy set

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you dont agree with me right?

ofc it i dont agree. It doesnt make sense to increase your DEX

tallum set does not increase dex and i never mentioned to increase dex in gladi but if you have low attack speed your skills reuse delay will be increased and your speed will decreased too...

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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

yeah if you catch them....
have you ever played gladi on low rate server?

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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

yeah if you catch them....
have you ever played gladi on low rate server?

no I play gladi on x1000 rates with 40 buffs and all of them give me speed...

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Breal wrote:
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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

yeah if you catch them....
have you ever played gladi on low rate server?

no I play gladi on x1000 rates with 40 buffs and all of them give me speed...

oO you have a great future as a l2 player

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PersonalJesus wrote:
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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

yeah if you catch them....
have you ever played gladi on low rate server?

no I play gladi on x1000 rates with 40 buffs and all of them give me speed...

oO you have a great future as a l2 player

thank you. Even the cute female dwarfie will pwn duelist with Tallum set btw. I forgot to mention the warsmith will be with composite...

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Breal wrote:
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and why should I have so high speed ? To catch the g@y MS, dying from buster and TSS ?

yeah if you catch them....
have you ever played gladi on low rate server?

no I play gladi on x1000 rates with 40 buffs and all of them give me speed...

oO you have a great future as a l2 player

thank you. Even the cute female dwarfie will pwn duelist with Tallum set btw. I forgot to mention the warsmith will be with composite...

compo+dyes +30 str -30 dex and 40 buffs that increase speed :D

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