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That argument is already lost retard. In the same sense u exp with dark on dark weaklings lol. And who really exps with hurricane? Waste of mp lol...

And i bet you have emp echo at lvl 1? right..
And its like additional arcane right? And more mp cons right? lol
Great for exp...k

Necro exps best than any nuker. Why? Cuz he has pet too.
Means he can exp good with ANY buffer. At most places..
SH exps good as well.

Btw, why the fuck do you count stat difference unbuffed? lol
We all know it gets bigger when buffed.

Firstly, watch your fucking mouth, don't turn this argument into a fight like you usually do.
Secondly, tell me how many dark weaklings you know and how many wind weaklings you know. That's my point.
From your statements, you relevated that a sh doesn't have way higher matk than the necro, i just demonstrated you're wrong. And be serious, +30% matk for a bit of mana in plus is always a good bargain, arcane power example. You think that the empowering echo gives you like +50% mana consumption?

Necro doesn't necessarily xp better. The summon itself takes some amount of xp, just to give you a better solo possibility.

The stats are with dc set and acu 3. You didn't even look.

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That argument is already lost retard. In the same sense u exp with dark on dark weaklings lol. And who really exps with hurricane? Waste of mp lol...

And i bet you have emp echo at lvl 1? right..
And its like additional arcane right? And more mp cons right? lol
Great for exp...k

Necro exps best than any nuker. Why? Cuz he has pet too.
Means he can exp good with ANY buffer. At most places..
SH exps good as well.

Btw, why the fuck do you count stat difference unbuffed? lol
We all know it gets bigger when buffed.

Firstly, watch your fucking mouth, don't turn this argument into a fight like you usually do.
Secondly, tell me how many dark weaklings you know and how many wind weaklings you know. That's my point.
From your statements, you relevated that a sh doesn't have way higher matk than the necro, i just demonstrated you're wrong. And be serious, +30% matk for a bit of mana in plus is always a good bargain, arcane power example. You think that the empowering echo gives you like +50% mana consumption?

Necro doesn't necessarily xp better. The summon itself takes some amount of xp, just to give you a better solo possibility.

The stats are with dc set and acu 3. You didn't even look.


the fact is that necro is way better farmer than the sph


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Ok , we said our opinions.
In this manner we'll always argue.
It's simple: In my opinion .... etc.
The one who made the topic got his answers, so no need to argue any more.


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the fact is that necro is way better farmer than the sph

It's not a fact. :roll:
It's a fact when for example sh has more damage output than the necro, but you can't say that x is a better farmer, because for example necro is a good farmer, but bd can be a better farmer, because he's a party guy.

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i cant see there almost nothing more then necro lovers vs sph lovers.......

damn, for SOLO PVE on REGULAR (1x) MOBS are both classes good. None of them is better in this option. Both can 2 shot anything and both can 1 shot with CDL (okay, SPH has an advantage with CDL due to m atack).

casting speed is NOT important in solo XP (unless you have 400 and lower)
number of MP is NOT important in solo XP - important is regen - both have same regen with BTM combo, BUT sph posses clear mind passive, which will increase regen while standing/walking

EDIT: difference in cast speed and MP is VERY low, only come to light in FULLBUFF (you wont get fullbuf for solo XP on regular server), and even ther, the casting speed WONT be way higher

magical atack IS important in solo XP, BUT its all about 2 shots everything.
sph and necro and sorc have VERY similar m atack UNBUFFED.

as i wrote above, necro CAN solo catas, but its very SLOW AND DEPENDABLE ON LUCK/MISSFORTUNE, so that means, its very LITTLE +


and another word to this topic..............man who created this WAS NOT asking about necro :)


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Its Spellhowler - high lvl BTM, Death Spike, CDL and high INT!


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ill make it short guys:) i see 2 best options of ur opinion are the sh and necro right?i say sh
u know why?simple dudez..
bot have btm(body to mind) but hey look here the INT of the sh is WAAAAAAAAy higher:) he is able to kill most mobs with a single shot:)
most mobs=dead if we have sh
necro=needs to find some mobs with lower m def!
necro is 1 big noting in pve.. half nuker(with low int and low dmg of spells,cursed bones dependant) and a half debffer(wth use ur supa dupa debuffs in pve?no way dudez) half summoner(wth!??! ye nice summon but what?necro is no good buffer neither healer of his summons!)
i say:necro? no thanx dudez!sh ftw..
hahahahhaa
You know any SH that pve's with hurricane? xD
And necro does more dmg with gloom + dark vortex + spike
than SH does with dark vortex + spike lol
Btw spike has same power as hurricane. lol tard xD

And WAYYYY higher m att? you sir are a retard xD
Also, who needs heal when necro anchors x3+ mobs? lol

gtfo lil boy


now listen retarded peace of shit compare sh + sowd(mag power)+ demons set
and stupid necro with the same equipment.. u r retard:) u see?
who says dark vortex + spike? are u retard or something?wth?if u rly want to improve ur dmg so much u use surender+wind vort+hurricane,nabshit..
who said sh lvls with hurricane..wtf? mostly with ds,but wait wait this is not super mario or tetris! some mobs have weakpoint wind attax.. wo0t u r retard once again:)
u see u r fkin wrong again:)go eat shit and die..
necro anchors x3 mobs? IU AR NUUBISH PIIS OF SHIT:) necro lvlin on x3 mobs and wasting all the time mana for anchor with low base land rate:)hah ok go play pvp servers..


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GoDs3nD wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
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ill make it short guys:) i see 2 best options of ur opinion are the sh and necro right?i say sh
u know why?simple dudez..
bot have btm(body to mind) but hey look here the INT of the sh is WAAAAAAAAy higher:) he is able to kill most mobs with a single shot:)
most mobs=dead if we have sh
necro=needs to find some mobs with lower m def!
necro is 1 big noting in pve.. half nuker(with low int and low dmg of spells,cursed bones dependant) and a half debffer(wth use ur supa dupa debuffs in pve?no way dudez) half summoner(wth!??! ye nice summon but what?necro is no good buffer neither healer of his summons!)
i say:necro? no thanx dudez!sh ftw..
hahahahhaa
You know any SH that pve's with hurricane? xD
And necro does more dmg with gloom + dark vortex + spike
than SH does with dark vortex + spike lol
Btw spike has same power as hurricane. lol tard xD

And WAYYYY higher m att? you sir are a retard xD
Also, who needs heal when necro anchors x3+ mobs? lol

gtfo lil boy


now listen retarded peace of shit compare sh + sowd(mag power)+ demons set
and stupid necro with the same equipment.. u r retard:) u see?
who says dark vortex + spike? are u retard or something?wth?if u rly want to improve ur dmg so much u use surender+wind vort+hurricane,nabshit..
who said sh lvls with hurricane..wtf? mostly with ds,but wait wait this is not super mario or tetris! some mobs have weakpoint wind attax.. wo0t u r retard once again:)
u see u r fkin wrong again:)go eat shit and die..
necro anchors x3 mobs? IU AR NUUBISH PIIS OF SHIT:) necro lvlin on x3 mobs and wasting all the time mana for anchor with low base land rate:)hah ok go play pvp servers..



lmao everyone who reads your posts will say that you are idiot

necro runs out of mana when he uses anchor ? o.O lmfao ever heard of cursed man ?

you use surender+wind vortex+hurricane LMFAO YEAH RIGHT watch out maybe you wont have enough mana for 10 mobs. you are good farmer and btw if you have wind vortex means that you are high lvl , you still use demons set and C weapon


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
ill make it short guys:) i see 2 best options of ur opinion are the sh and necro right?i say sh
u know why?simple dudez..
bot have btm(body to mind) but hey look here the INT of the sh is WAAAAAAAAy higher:) he is able to kill most mobs with a single shot:)
most mobs=dead if we have sh
necro=needs to find some mobs with lower m def!
necro is 1 big noting in pve.. half nuker(with low int and low dmg of spells,cursed bones dependant) and a half debffer(wth use ur supa dupa debuffs in pve?no way dudez) half summoner(wth!??! ye nice summon but what?necro is no good buffer neither healer of his summons!)
i say:necro? no thanx dudez!sh ftw..
hahahahhaa
You know any SH that pve's with hurricane? xD
And necro does more dmg with gloom + dark vortex + spike
than SH does with dark vortex + spike lol
Btw spike has same power as hurricane. lol tard xD

And WAYYYY higher m att? you sir are a retard xD
Also, who needs heal when necro anchors x3+ mobs? lol

gtfo lil boy


now listen retarded peace of shit compare sh + sowd(mag power)+ demons set
and stupid necro with the same equipment.. u r retard:) u see?
who says dark vortex + spike? are u retard or something?wth?if u rly want to improve ur dmg so much u use surender+wind vort+hurricane,nabshit..
who said sh lvls with hurricane..wtf? mostly with ds,but wait wait this is not super mario or tetris! some mobs have weakpoint wind attax.. wo0t u r retard once again:)
u see u r fkin wrong again:)go eat shit and die..
necro anchors x3 mobs? IU AR NUUBISH PIIS OF SHIT:) necro lvlin on x3 mobs and wasting all the time mana for anchor with low base land rate:)hah ok go play pvp servers..



lmao everyone who reads your posts will say that you are idiot

necro runs out of mana when he uses anchor ? o.O lmfao ever heard of cursed man ?

you use surender+wind vortex+hurricane LMFAO YEAH RIGHT watch out maybe you wont have enough mana for 10 mobs. you are good farmer and btw if you have wind vortex means that you are high lvl , you still use demons set and C weapon


u r reatarder or something?ur post doesnt follow even a SIMPLE logic.. what is ur point?u can cast spells all the time use anchors and u will allawayes keep ur mana high? dont think so meng.. i use surender+wind v+hurri when i need high dmg in a small period of time-->pvp or i rly need to kill that mob asap..go play super mario if u dont have enough brains to conprehent all this info..


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U use anchor mostly when you use pet.
When you use pet you dont have to nuke a lot. Maybe not at all.
And you will always have full mp.
Since u wont have to heal summon.

And you're a fucktard. lol

And btw, who the fuck was talking about pvp?
We're talking about efficiency in PvE. Learn to fuckin read.

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GoDs3nD wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
ill make it short guys:) i see 2 best options of ur opinion are the sh and necro right?i say sh
u know why?simple dudez..
bot have btm(body to mind) but hey look here the INT of the sh is WAAAAAAAAy higher:) he is able to kill most mobs with a single shot:)
most mobs=dead if we have sh
necro=needs to find some mobs with lower m def!
necro is 1 big noting in pve.. half nuker(with low int and low dmg of spells,cursed bones dependant) and a half debffer(wth use ur supa dupa debuffs in pve?no way dudez) half summoner(wth!??! ye nice summon but what?necro is no good buffer neither healer of his summons!)
i say:necro? no thanx dudez!sh ftw..
hahahahhaa
You know any SH that pve's with hurricane? xD
And necro does more dmg with gloom + dark vortex + spike
than SH does with dark vortex + spike lol
Btw spike has same power as hurricane. lol tard xD

And WAYYYY higher m att? you sir are a retard xD
Also, who needs heal when necro anchors x3+ mobs? lol

gtfo lil boy


now listen retarded peace of shit compare sh + sowd(mag power)+ demons set
and stupid necro with the same equipment.. u r retard:) u see?
who says dark vortex + spike? are u retard or something?wth?if u rly want to improve ur dmg so much u use surender+wind vort+hurricane,nabshit..
who said sh lvls with hurricane..wtf? mostly with ds,but wait wait this is not super mario or tetris! some mobs have weakpoint wind attax.. wo0t u r retard once again:)
u see u r fkin wrong again:)go eat shit and die..
necro anchors x3 mobs? IU AR NUUBISH PIIS OF SHIT:) necro lvlin on x3 mobs and wasting all the time mana for anchor with low base land rate:)hah ok go play pvp servers..



lmao everyone who reads your posts will say that you are idiot

necro runs out of mana when he uses anchor ? o.O lmfao ever heard of cursed man ?

you use surender+wind vortex+hurricane LMFAO YEAH RIGHT watch out maybe you wont have enough mana for 10 mobs. you are good farmer and btw if you have wind vortex means that you are high lvl , you still use demons set and C weapon


u r reatarder or something?ur post doesnt follow even a SIMPLE logic.. what is ur point?u can cast spells all the time use anchors and u will allawayes keep ur mana high? dont think so meng.. i use surender+wind v+hurri when i need high dmg in a small period of time-->pvp or i rly need to kill that mob asap..go play super mario if u dont have enough brains to conprehent all this info..


lmao idiot who the hell did u saw to cast anchor while lvling without summon xD you are dumb


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U use anchor mostly when you use pet.
When you use pet you dont have to nuke a lot. Maybe not at all.
And you will always have full mp.
Since u wont have to heal summon.

And you're a fucktard. lol


stop arguing with this d0gs3nD he is too narrow minded to understand most of the things on l2

he says one thing like "i use surender+wind vortex+hurri on lvling" then when he sees that he is idiot , he changes his all affirmations saying that he was talking about pvp


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
U use anchor mostly when you use pet.
When you use pet you dont have to nuke a lot. Maybe not at all.
And you will always have full mp.
Since u wont have to heal summon.

And you're a fucktard. lol


stop arguing with this d0gs3nD he is too narrow minded to understand most of the things on l2

he says one thing like "i use surender+wind vortex+hurri on lvling" then when he sees that he is idiot , he changes his all affirmations saying that he was talking about pvp


wait wait the idiot that said the dmg difference is not big between sh and necro and said that u have lower dmg when u use dark v. + ds than necro has with gloom+vort+ds i said that we dont compare the secondary and main atribute of the bot classes
main power of the sh is the wind element:)
the main of the necro is darkness
so what the fuck are u talking about? u use necros summon to lvl? that means u r fkin retard that cant understand that necro is better nuker than summoner(well now we have some changes since t1)
still i are not a good summoner because u lack some good buffs.. etc etc
u both are 2 dogs that wait for the meet to come and lay down in theyr legs so they can eat it.. no way mengz.. u bot are stupid niggerz.. gtfo


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GoDs3nD wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
U use anchor mostly when you use pet.
When you use pet you dont have to nuke a lot. Maybe not at all.
And you will always have full mp.
Since u wont have to heal summon.

And you're a fucktard. lol


stop arguing with this d0gs3nD he is too narrow minded to understand most of the things on l2

he says one thing like "i use surender+wind vortex+hurri on lvling" then when he sees that he is idiot , he changes his all affirmations saying that he was talking about pvp


wait wait the idiot that said the dmg difference is not big between sh and necro and said that u have lower dmg when u use dark v. + ds than necro has with gloom+vort+ds i said that we dont compare the secondary and main atribute of the bot classes
main power of the sh is the wind element:)
the main of the necro is darkness
so what the fuck are u talking about? u use necros summon to lvl? that means u r fkin retard that cant understand that necro is better nuker than summoner(well now we have some changes since t1)
still i are not a good summoner because u lack some good buffs.. etc etc
u both are 2 dogs that wait for the meet to come and lay down in theyr legs so they can eat it.. no way mengz.. u bot are stupid niggerz.. gtfo


ofc is better nuker than summoner , but you dont even know why necro's use it , you dont even know how the things are on low rates without mana potions

necro with summon can keep his mana full all the time anywhere , even in fog if you have PP and se or ee with you , but hey what the fuck do you know haha you dont use summon on necro , AND you argue but you dont even know whats right and whats wrong (high rate mana pots servers ftw)

go eat shit and die with your sph LOL farming strategy (surender+wind vortex+hurricane)


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ye right:) u again failed in ur try to make me noob:) no way meng:) sph>necro whatever u wanna say.. u just cant explain it or u rly dont know shit:) once again i say u both are retardz:)


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