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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:35 pm 
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Calculate the rate of battle heal that the summoner is capable of. It adds some good longevity. Don't forget that the summoner has some nice debuffs. And don't forget that if it's ps, the shit is thick. Wind shackle + hex + chance of stun...

but gladi has lionheart.... it lasts 60 seconds... its more the enough to gladi to end the fight. btw ... pro gladi will have a blunt with him ant have a chance to stun(hammer crush) a summoner or a summon....

Temporarily and significantly increases resistance to Paralysis, Hold, Sleep or Shock attack.
Hex, power break and wind shackle are still up. And i never said you RELY on stunning your target.

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now look...may I enter the flamebox?
whats ur point guys?summoner will never kill gl(this is 1)
and summoner can allawayes kill gl(thats 2)
u guys all talk BULLSHIT!ingame there is nothing FOR SURE,ABSOLUTELY,ALAWAYES...NEVER-those words dont exist..(except in pvp servers)
look now ur glads setup is -dex..u have sonic move right?u activate it..u try to go near to the summoner he runs(its normal) and his summon hits u
u keep chasing the summoner or ruin ur barrier and start the summon..
now wtf?u combo the summon and now what?summoner has his 1 second time and heals the summon..u r pretty much fucked up u lost ur charges..
but scenario 1-fullmax crits of skills and the summon is down,u activate sonic move,and try to get the summoner(he tryes to resummon) but u dont have charges.. so u nuke(u have lost proly ur whole cp and some hp)
the summoner resummons and the fight starts again..now lets not forget a bout the cubics,debuffs(mass bane,wind shackle) the cubic can deal some rly good shit!the es has cubic with simmilar effect to freezing shackle,healing cubic and etc etc
ps has stunning cubic,phantom cubic,blablablal wind shackle
warlock may finish the fight in the very first second(para)
i say rly summoners can kill glads..


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:10 pm 
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guzeris wrote:
i see u are not plaing in global coz u sai glad skills never miss :D from ct1 in global glad skills can miss 2 it now depends on chars evasion same evade dager skills so stfu k?:) tss can be evaded and shild blocked now from ct1 so stop spreading bull shit :) smart sumoner will have shild to have % chance to block attack and wtf are utalking he got good heal to his sumon and debuffs he can make u imba slow and imba slow on attack speed so stop spreading bullshit k m8 coz i realy see that in thsi forum 95% ppls plays not global servers...



I want the quote, ok ? The quote from official update site where is written than you can evade physical skills WITH THE SUMMONER and +EVASION and if that is true smart SUMMONER WILL NEVER USE SHIELD CAUSE IT DECREASES YOUR EVASION. Self owned... *commits a suicide*

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Triple Sonic Splash - You channel sonic force which causes your weapon to strike three times the norm. Requires a dual-sword weapon. Requires Level 4 or above Sonic Focus charge. [b]Shield defense is ignored[/b.] Critical hit is possible.




Icarus - I agree with you about the AW - 9 of 10 skills are successful but there is still chance to miss. And Duelist's big advantage in this case are his ranged attacks and his 10% higher PVP dmg :) + War Cry



To the dude who said summoners have nice heal - Since I attack the summoner - I don't think battle heal is that nice - 300HP per heal is nothing compared to 1k dmg per skill.


To the noob who said Duelists CP is gone after 4 seconds - I can simply say -> when you are not drunk, come back and write in the topic


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To the noob who said Duelists CP is gone after 4 seconds - I can simply say -> when you are not drunk, come back and write in the topic

Present. And btw, you read marios' post. Read mine and observe i was using a figure of speech. What i meant to say was that glad's cp would fade fast, but seems like marios has no interpretation power.

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its time to fkin close this topic imo..nobody listens to others opinion..just close this-its going to turn(or it is allready)into a flambeox

yes yes god bless the glad and curse the stupid summoner that is absolutely useless class and can NEVER NEVER NVER pwn a supa dupa owning glad..


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Icarus wrote:
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To the noob who said Duelists CP is gone after 4 seconds - I can simply say -> when you are not drunk, come back and write in the topic

Present. And btw, you read marios' post. Read mine and observe i was using a figure of speech. What i meant to say was that glad's cp would fade fast, but seems like marios has no interpretation power.

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Glad can get owned by a summoner very easy. Do you know the damage dealt by the summon in oly? Smacks your cp in 4 hits. Daggers have more chances because the damage output is very high. Remember that the summoner will heal himself too, so you need a good dps to outspam heal.

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a litle bit off topic (summoner vs titan)

Im AL 79

I pvp a titan in coli, self buffs+shop pots

Titan equip full S proly safe ench (sword+pole+bow S +3)

My equip maj robe set, nm shield, SoV, tallum&DLE+3

The thing is i have no problems until he enters frenzy, then 2-3 hits he kills feline king 3 hits and he kills me

I spamed all debuffs (only banes worked)

What should i do?

Any tips?

Do i have any chances?

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Simply stop attacking her/him, warrior bane removes movement spd buffs to, so I don't think so she/he will be a speedy gonzales.
The next maybe, to use kai the cat. Yeah, low hp, but it has 20% reflection and with serv.ud. you can keep up the heal and the precious destro will feel some of it's own FR's effect.
I killed that way a destro, while I had full c and only a bwlight, and the destro had +4dragon slayer, majestic set, tateossian.
She/he w8 with normal hits, actived FR and couldn't beat my summon on ud.
30% is not too much.

Or if you're playing kamael or HB, just simply heal her/him a bit, so FR won't be so powerful and you can stay alive running away. Dunno if this works, never played rly kamael or HB.


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Icarus wrote:
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To the noob who said Duelists CP is gone after 4 seconds - I can simply say -> when you are not drunk, come back and write in the topic

Present. And btw, you read marios' post. Read mine and observe i was using a figure of speech. What i meant to say was that glad's cp would fade fast, but seems like marios has no interpretation power.

Icarus wrote:
Glad can get owned by a summoner very easy. Do you know the damage dealt by the summon in oly? Smacks your cp in 4 hits. Daggers have more chances because the damage output is very high. Remember that the summoner will heal himself too, so you need a good dps to outspam heal.

:/

As i said, figure of speech.

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dagger can also make a lethal on the summoner :P

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when figting a summoner its like 2 vs 1 fight
1 is a mage and can debuff.nuke you the other is a fighter that has same damage power as you ( depends on summon )

unless your lucky to crit all your skills you have slim chances of winning
and lets not forget the equipment
i doubt it that the summoner and the glad will have the same equip power ( equip power = same ehcnats the top gear for them top sa etc etc etc )
to truly find and answer to the quetion does the summoner beat the glady post 3 fights self full and oly buffs
and let the video talk for its self


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Or, so to say, it's like the dd + the support.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:21 pm 
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a litle bit off topic (summoner vs titan)

Im AL 79

I pvp a titan in coli, self buffs+shop pots

Titan equip full S proly safe ench (sword+pole+bow S +3)

My equip maj robe set, nm shield, SoV, tallum&DLE+3

The thing is i have no problems until he enters frenzy, then 2-3 hits he kills feline king 3 hits and he kills me

I spamed all debuffs (only banes worked)

What should i do?

Any tips?

Do i have any chances?

ty


root with king, problem solved

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intereting if u use kai and u reflect the frienzy back to the destro(ofc u need to spam heals hard) will the destro die? is it possible?


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intereting if u use kai and u reflect the frienzy back to the destro(ofc u need to spam heals hard) will the destro die? is it possible?


well if the destro hits the summon and not u...

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