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 Post subject: Re: Why no one create new decent servers theese days?!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:35 pm 
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yes, and? Do I need to remember you that DEX died even before Wrath? That you were even considering the merge?

Wrath was for me one of the best server I've played in. I played since the rates were x12, till the release of RPG USSR x15. The 3-4 months before that release, Wrath was already dead because you (because I guess you are Catalin) just let it die, focusing on that Arion that was dead even before starting up, which ultimately you merged with DEX to try to save both of them that were kinda death.

After that you started all those pay-to-win servers that got you the reputation you have now: shitty servers that last 2-3 months.

PS: Still remember the siege that was like 19 (PH+RoF+...) vs 45 (DH + ... all the other yellow zerg) parties. Just amazing.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:37 pm 
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What is succes? Nexus was not. How many old clans did it manage to get? How much hype was there about it? How long it lasted 9 months? A succesful community and server was dex x4 wrath x9. They kept a big part of the population for many years. Keeping a growing community fore more than 1 1/2 years si worth noting. Not shit like nexus, rpg x5 , x15 or w/e shit there was afterwards.

Is eglobal with its 5 - 7 k people a succesful server? by judging numbers you can consider it so. But you can't judge a community looking at the numbers in the first month. Look at it after 12 months. Are there new people joining?

Dex x4 managed to keep that going for quite a while. Same did Raidfight, which was a very succesful community.

Creating a server that manages to bring new people in it every month , that's a succesful community and project.


Eglobal dont even have 4k online. russian project has always 2/3 times multiplied online counters.

We need stable server where people can't get everything in 2 months if we want keep people playing at least for a year. This is why I suggested H5 chronicle with nerfed instances/no vitality stuff. Because of no stable server russians are happy and launches servers every 2-3 months...



Your intelect is definetely at the border between a unicelular form of life and an evolved invertebrate.

Regarding numbers- that was my point , they don't matter. The server for now is going well, and it seems stable enough.
If you make a 1x 2x 3x server is too low nowadays. You cna not find people that would commit playing such a grind festival for a very long period of time. Lineage 2 is not a friendly game to casual people. In order to attract casual people you would need to customize the penalty system that currently exists when your character dies. Many casuals will ahte pvping at a 1x server due to the amount of exp you loose. And don't bother telling me about bishop ress and other game mechanics.

High 5 is the most retarded updates regarding character abilities in all L2 history. The content is good but classes are dreadful. Won't attract quality people. Well it will attract creatures like you. I'd fund such a server to keep your bunch in there sedated.

Getting easy stuff attracts a bigger comunity and more casual players. You get a dc set fast and acumen weapon and thats it. S set S weapon etc. You don't need to farm like a maniac to get s80 s82 s84 etc etc. It encourages pvp and transitions the community to the end game really fast. Here's the tricky side: a server will live for a long time as long as there are 2+ sides.


c5 - gracia epilogue best possible timeline for servers to be created.

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I can still log in and play with my first character created in RPG USSRx15 back in... 2010? So your point is not valid at all.

Dex died when they let Wrath die (the old one). There has not been any single good Dex server since Wrath.


Everybody could/ do it. Why weren't they? Why isn't the server drawing new people?

My point is very valid. The fact that you can log doesn't invalidate my arguement.

The scientific community should consider creating an infertility virus for stuff like you, the humanity would be spared of idiots that consume precious resources, and I would be spared the effort of trying to write sentences that you can actually comprehend.




A community nowadays can be made only through intensive marketing.
It needs to deliver on the promises it makes.
The admins would be far better off if they would have some reputation already.
A community would die if a server would remain stuck in one update.

Best thing would be to start a server at a very old update and slowly build up to gracia epilogue in months and months to come. Like it really happened. Dex was taken to interlude and hellbound as other servers did.

Advertisement needs to adress diverse communities of people, not only europeans. There is a huge community in Russia, South America, that can be targeted and through intelligent marketing can become a makor part of a new server.

Donation system must be fair and must consist of desirable things. The feedback the administration receives from the forums( through forum posts ) is often misleading, and it should often not be taken into account.

Customizing the server. Hey we know some of us love the old L2, but creating a better interface and allowing for custom services to exist through special NPCs is a must.

Anti bot system- active gms to hunt for bots.

DDOS protection that actually works. A ddos attack really removes the excitement and hype that a player has when a new server launches.

Increased exp amount need to reach lvls between 75 -80-85 in order to allow for "catching up" to happen.
Upon reaching a new lvl you can not delevel. ( Encourages PVP ).

Quest rates set to retail levels. ( Want end game content , you better work really hard for it ) - Thinking here about S stuff , epic RBs that require quests and so on.

That's how I see it possible. Don't think it's ever been done. There will be replies with a negative reception towards my ideas. I know they will not be accepted and they are not easy to implement. So good luck with trying to find "new decent servers" nowadays following the same failed policy as you did in the past.

If you wanna build something beautiful it takes time, and bold leadership that is prepared to make smart decisions.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:33 pm 
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Chronicle updates are something essential for the game. They introduce new endgame every few months. This solve the problems that we discuss.

Such kind of server is only possible with Classic 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0, I hope somebody get the files.
The official server is too low rates. A rate like x4-5 interlude and updates every 4 months is my dream.

About the suggestions for custom staff... I think if server is low rate - it's a must to be ratail. Few people will join custom server.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:10 am 
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@kata you are fking retard all I can tell you. x1- x3 rates too low? Seriously? Get the fack out from here... Look at classes, their x1 rate it even lower than our x1 rate. Do people complained about xp? No, cause they play damn game...

In the end there is no difference if you play x1 or x5000 rates, if you play game 8hours a day you will be still playing same time no matter of server, server rates and so on. The only difference is how many servers you will change after specific time.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:54 am 
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botsman wrote:
Chronicle updates are something essential for the game. They introduce new endgame every few months. This solve the problems that we discuss.

Such kind of server is only possible with Classic 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0, I hope somebody get the files.
The official server is too low rates. A rate like x4-5 interlude and updates every 4 months is my dream.

About the suggestions for custom staff... I think if server is low rate - it's a must to be ratail. Few people will join custom server.

Soon :)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:06 pm 
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tutanka wrote:
botsman wrote:
Chronicle updates are something essential for the game. They introduce new endgame every few months. This solve the problems that we discuss.

Such kind of server is only possible with Classic 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0, I hope somebody get the files.
The official server is too low rates. A rate like x4-5 interlude and updates every 4 months is my dream.

About the suggestions for custom staff... I think if server is low rate - it's a must to be ratail. Few people will join custom server.

Soon :)


soon what? classic files server or c4 + upgrading to newer chronicles?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:59 pm 
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classic . 1.0 -1.3 - 1.5 - 2.0

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:44 pm 
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aqdevas wrote:
@kata you are fking retard all I can tell you. x1- x3 rates too low? Seriously? Get the fack out from here... Look at classes, their x1 rate it even lower than our x1 rate. Do people complained about xp? No, cause they play damn game...

In the end there is no difference if you play x1 or x5000 rates, if you play game 8hours a day you will be still playing same time no matter of server, server rates and so on. The only difference is how many servers you will change after specific time.


people fucking botted your worthless creature.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:49 pm 
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Kata wrote:
aqdevas wrote:
@kata you are fking retard all I can tell you. x1- x3 rates too low? Seriously? Get the fack out from here... Look at classes, their x1 rate it even lower than our x1 rate. Do people complained about xp? No, cause they play damn game...

In the end there is no difference if you play x1 or x5000 rates, if you play game 8hours a day you will be still playing same time no matter of server, server rates and so on. The only difference is how many servers you will change after specific time.


people fucking botted your worthless creature.


like people dont bot in private servers. you fkin punk.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:31 pm 
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aqdevas wrote:
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aqdevas wrote:
@kata you are fking retard all I can tell you. x1- x3 rates too low? Seriously? Get the fack out from here... Look at classes, their x1 rate it even lower than our x1 rate. Do people complained about xp? No, cause they play damn game...

In the end there is no difference if you play x1 or x5000 rates, if you play game 8hours a day you will be still playing same time no matter of server, server rates and so on. The only difference is how many servers you will change after specific time.


people fucking botted your worthless creature.


like people dont bot in private servers. you fkin punk.


the need and desire to bot would tell anyone smth is wrong with the game, but a lifeform such as yourself would not understand. Go commit suicide worthless trashcan.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:09 am 
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Kata wrote:
the need and desire to bot would tell anyone smth is wrong with the game, but a lifeform such as yourself would not understand. Go commit suicide worthless trashcan.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:42 am 
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tutanka wrote:
botsman wrote:
Chronicle updates are something essential for the game. They introduce new endgame every few months. This solve the problems that we discuss.

Such kind of server is only possible with Classic 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0, I hope somebody get the files.
The official server is too low rates. A rate like x4-5 interlude and updates every 4 months is my dream.

About the suggestions for custom staff... I think if server is low rate - it's a must to be ratail. Few people will join custom server.

Soon :)

It's been many years since i've played L2 and i miss it dearly but the only way i'm going to play it again is if a decent private server gets the files and creates a server with them with slightly higher rates than retail.

Last time i've seen you talking about classic you were saying last winter you will have them. It's almost summer now and you still don't have them. What exactly is "soon" ? Couple months? Half a year? Next year?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:39 pm 
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tutanka wrote:
classic . 1.0 -1.3 - 1.5 - 2.0

pleaseeeeeeee

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:21 pm 
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Sinnocent wrote:
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classic . 1.0 -1.3 - 1.5 - 2.0

pleaseeeeeeee


classic is crap.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:09 pm 
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Not gonna happen.

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