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Which set is better for PVP?
MJ light 81%  81%  [ 58 ]
Nightmare light 19%  19%  [ 14 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:26 pm 
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Well, let's have it logical...

Crt power 6 gives almost 400 patk on crit. VS gives almost 600 patk. That's about 50% more.
Kent said that crt power 6 gives around 230 dmg per blow. I said that vs gives at least 300, which is about 50% more. What's so hard to understand?

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his english maybe sux and he allawyes flames juz cuz he is not able to understand the whole information posted here;]


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:35 pm 
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Icarus wrote:
Well, let's have it logical...

Crt power 6 gives almost 400 patk on crit. VS gives almost 600 patk. That's about 50% more.
Kent said that crt power 6 gives around 230 dmg per blow. I said that vs gives at least 300, which is about 50% more. What's so hard to understand?

How do u know it works like that? lol
I mean, one skill's a passive and the other is a toggle.

And how do u know crit power 6 gives 400 p att on crit the same way VS does? Judging from what?
The same team that came up with that defined passives, made the calc.

edit: FYI, info on VS are painted red, means the value may not be true.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:51 pm 
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Pff... Dude i'm telling you what i've tested. VS gives 50% more damage than crit power 6 does. That's what you wanted.
It may be painted red, idc, but that's the fact. And if it's incorrect, what do you think? It's off by some great number? No, it's not. It may be off by 20 patk on each, or it may be off by less.

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When a PW and an AW have same p att and same critical buffs
AW does 50 dmg more on crit. VS has nothing to do with that.

And once again, how do u know it gives 50% more DAMAGE?
Thats absurd.

Only way to try it , is pick an AW and a PW same lvl, same buffs, almost same p att (even for minor difference) and check aprox dmg on blows.

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Listen, that +50 damage is on a critical hit, not on a blow. That's what i'm trying to tell you, but you don't seem to understand.
A general hit has its own patk to sustain it. A blow has nothing but its power, that's why it critical power passive reacts like amplified.


And please read again, i said vs gives +50% more damage than the critical power 6 does. You get it? Crir power gives +200, vs gives +300. Did you understand?

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Once again, thats pure speculation dude.
I don't see why it would work different on blow and different on hit.
Since both are considered critical hit and bonus ain't changing right?
Or does it change when on hit cuz of different formula? If it does, how much?

Seems that passive works in its own way. Raises only base stat -->dmg prolly/

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Well, it's not working like a general crit. How come vicious stance adds 300+ damage and not 75, like it should be? Ask yourself that.

And i'm pretty sure that the calculator is wrong. With vs lvl 12 (which means +350 patk) i get around +150 per mob. That calculator isn't accurate, i'm serious.
That means that vs 12 is weaker than crt chance 6, but it gives more? This suggests that you are right and the passive works different. I'll get a pw and tell you the results. I've been searching, and i found one of lvl 60 (i am lvl 59).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:54 pm 
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aw with maj set on crits harder then and sr with same equip :))
plus if you have cod on you just equip bow and make them full of arrows


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Emm i dont think u will make bigger crit than a sr with that eq but nvm


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you have great crit power some bow pasive and maj set
your patk has to be the same as sr
but thx to crit powr passive you can crit more


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I think i'll chose NM light...

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what do u think about draconic on aw?


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Only if u have zake and/or ANTHARAS boss jewelry


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:24 pm 
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Depends on Chronicle. In C4 it was nuker sleep and support hold time --> Nm light

Nowadays C6 is mostly Archer time --> Mj light

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