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Want to revive the Line][age times? choose your destiny
C6 47%  47%  [ 32 ]
Gracia Final 43%  43%  [ 29 ]
Gracia Epilogue 10%  10%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 68
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 Post subject: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:43 pm 
Vagabond

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Hi there,
I am an experienced developer but also i spent allot of my time playing lineage as well.
I know there are allot of players who want to bring the old times back.

I know that i have the technical knowledge and expertise to make a great server, and don't get me wrong, i want to do it, but my opinion is not the only one that matters, so i am asking for your help as well in order to do this right.

I am tired of seeing a continuous flow of servers that die in a moth or so, or servers that are purely donation oriented and things like that.

The server that i want to build sounds in big lines like this:
- Donations only for accessories (hats mostly).
- NO MORE PAY TO WIN

DO NOT FORGET, we are in this together !!!

How i will cover the costs?
I want to empower THE PLAYER, i was thinking about a marketplace where the player can auction his items for real money, and the system will take a small fee (10%) from what he sells.

The advantages:
- NO MORE ITEMS FROM THIN AIR!!!! everyone will work for the items, this means if there is someone who will play just to make money, might as well do it w/o any constraint or selling on some other forums.
- We minimize the risk of paying cp's of reaching the end game to soon and dominate the server.
- the server will stay alive w/o greedy donations or corruption for money :).

With these being said, i highly value your opinion! Tell me what you think.

BTW, we are talking about quality so you need to choose from any of these servers.

- C6 VERY STABLE
- Hellbound Unfortunately, not so stable(dupe exploits, AI, quests)
- GRACIA FINAL VERY STABLE
- GRACIA EPILOGUE VERY STABLE
- H5 VERY STABLE
- GOD VERY STABLE

DISCLAIMER: I refuse to create H5/GOD so chose from the others (answer the poll)


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 Post subject: Re: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:13 pm 
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Hellbound not so stable :'(((( i'd still like it :D BUT if there is no future for it i suggest gracia final because there are way too many C6 servers

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 Post subject: Re: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:31 pm 
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kekseobage wrote:
Hellbound not so stable :'(((( i'd still like it :D BUT if there is no future for it i suggest gracia final because there are way too many C6 servers


I have the old DEX version but it's full of dupes as well, Thanks for the feedback. I want to create the server but i want to see if it engages people, i still don't believe that l2 is dead.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:16 pm 
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0x4139 wrote:

I have the old DEX version but it's full of dupes as well, Thanks for the feedback. I want to create the server but i want to see if it engages people, i still don't believe that l2 is dead.



i doubt you have any files from dex . maybe you have some default extender scripts .
do not asociate dex name with your work . thanks

good luck with your project

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:55 pm 
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tutanka wrote:
i doubt you have any files from dex .
do not asociate dex name with your work . thanks


oh, again this dex fanboy whore...
Piss off already !!


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 Post subject: Re: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:08 pm 
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0x4139 wrote:
How i will cover the costs?
I want to empower THE PLAYER, i was thinking about a marketplace where the player can auction his items for real money, and the system will take a small fee (10%) from what he sells.


You won't make nearly enough money to cover the costs. You need to find a sponsor or something similar to pay the bills imo. Also I'm not so sure you won't get into trouble...if you know what I mean!
What kind of rates are we talking about, x3-x5 or x7-x10?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:26 pm 
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lamprey wrote:
0x4139 wrote:
How i will cover the costs?
I want to empower THE PLAYER, i was thinking about a marketplace where the player can auction his items for real money, and the system will take a small fee (10%) from what he sells.


You won't make nearly enough money to cover the costs. You need to find a sponsor or something similar to pay the bills imo. Also I'm not so sure you won't get into trouble...if you know what I mean!
What kind of rates are we talking about, x3-x5 or x7-x10?


I know what you mean, but if you look at the bitcoin model :), i will invent some kind of currency that will be used instead of the real money :). so the flow is like this
Player 1 sells draconic bow for 100 tokens
Player 2 wants to buy draconic bow for 100 tokens so he donates 10 usd to receive 100 tokens and the money go back the same way :D. The thing that this model for sure will work if i will gather at least 1-1.5k players, but off if you have any kind of idea to improve this, your opinion is more than welcome :). I intend this to be a community driven server.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's revive the old lineage times together!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:30 pm 
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An Interlude server will last longer than a Gracia one. So if long term is what you have in mind, make a low rate (x5 maybe?) server. Start by creating a community board. Put up some polls to see what the l2 community wants (as you can see, there are very few voters here)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:47 pm 
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ryji wrote:
An Interlude server will last longer than a Gracia one. So if long term is what you have in mind, make a low rate (x5 maybe?) server.
Rubbish! Would like to hear your arguements.....
ryji wrote:
Put up some polls to see what the l2 community wants (as you can see, there are very few voters here)
The GM has done exactly that, and the majority voted GF.

Any HB/GF/EPI server is harder to set up and run than IL or H5. Files are less polished and harder to get. Also, those of us who don't play IL or H5 are a bit more picky than the majority, and we can be hard to please. I've seen many GF/EPI-servers go up in smoke during last two years, most often because of flaming against GM and dev's. We should treat our GM's better..... Setting up an Interlude or HighFive server is less risky, because everybody runs the same server software. That's why there is thousands of them....

Interlude is to limited, to little friendly to play. Major features are missing. HighFive is to far out, where 90% of the drops and spoils are irrelevant, because ready-made items can be bought in shop...... Those chronicles inbetween have a perfect blend. Maybe not Freya. That can be discussed....


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:34 pm 
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As i mentioned before in some other topics for me Hellbound is most balanced chronicle. It isnt starwars but it also isnt prehistorical type :D IMO best feature of HB is max atrribute on weapons and armors, because to me 300 on weapon and 3 types of 120 on armors is too much. Also in HB you have some cool skills like vortex buster/critical wound wich is short in IL and there is no such skills like Starfall witch is close to star wars :D

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:21 pm 
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@t RheaCoos
You need to relax, just posting my opinion! This isn't a debate about which chronicle is better, lol. My claim is based on observation, nothing else! Most long term (that means six months these days) projects are Interlude...that's a fact! You can post whatever theory you have about why GF servers die after a couple weeks, in the mean time people will continue to play on "limited" Interlude servers like Evoke (month 5, community is steady).
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The GM has done exactly that, and the majority voted GF.


You want him to make a decision based on 15 votes? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:52 pm 
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Cmon, gracia final is the most reasonable client, we have 1000 interlude and h5 servers,and onely few non russian are with 500+ players, everybody is waiting for gracia final or helbound server, i personaly am waiting for gracia final, because i began to play this client and cant play older versions. epilogue has nothing to offer, freya is ok, and l2 under s grade in h5 is lost, any further chronicle is combined aion with old l2 creating star wars- episode 7.I just hope it's 3x or lower since there are no other server like this, excpet l2antharas, but it is lagging like hell. Please make balanced rates, don't make l2brutality mistake- x7-xp x1-quest drop, server died in 20 hours and developers broke.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:33 am 
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what will be the best place to advertise the server in your opinion?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:14 pm 
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0x4139 wrote:
what will be the best place to advertise the server in your opinion?


If you have money to pay - google adsense and ads on game toplists.
Or free - forum spam like this and vote in toplists.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:34 pm 
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If you want old school days come to bloodbros interlude x5

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