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Which set is better for PVP?
MJ light 81%  81%  [ 58 ]
Nightmare light 19%  19%  [ 14 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:34 pm 
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Marios, that's 50 more damage per crit. For a blow it's more. +250 or so. It's almost like a second vicious stance.

And btw i think that thing is wrong. With vicious stance lvl 12 (+350 patk - critical power gives almost +400) i get +150 damage per crit.


Anyway, it counts when you do a blow.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:07 pm 
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No.
And those passives ain't supposed to make a big difference lol.
And since Crit damage passive gave me +50 dmg when i hit for 1k
and still +50 dmg when hitting for 4k. Why would it work differently on blows?

And vicious stance works quite fine in L2 calc. Tested it ages ago.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:22 pm 
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Actually you're right, it's not about percentages... Hmm. Anyway, the odd thing is that it does make a difference when it comes to a blow. If vs adds around 300 dmg, this should add at least 200. But i'm certain that vs can add more.

I'll look into it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:26 pm 
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as far as i know the crt dmg sa adds patk in the stat window when you crit
and that patk in the stat window doesnt mean thea ctual damage you inflict on the target
it can be bigger or smaller
imagine on a low pdef target
you have 700 patk
you hit the target for 850 on normal hit
while you crit you can deal like what ???
1700 damage without the sa

with the sa i can say you can inflict like 2k damage or even more


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sekku u'r right for that but we talk about crit power passive skill :)


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As far as i know crit dmg lvl6 on daggers give exactly 230-250 dmg or on crit skill it doubles the damage. But it stays like that with buffs or CD weapon. The only difference is on critical on skills like double shot or backstab , where you double that crit passive.


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i think that with the pasive is the same
you cant expect a lvl 1 char with the highest crit power passive learn to crit for more then 200 dmg with a dagger ( non grade dager that is )
the whole game is in percentage so is the pasive ability


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I just want to know how something that increases ur P Atk in +384 (Yeah, i know that Critical Power and Vicious Stance are not powered by Soulshots) can increase only 50 in dmg.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:55 am 
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maybe the 1 who said it must filedtest it then start talking honestly

this is why flames appear around here missinformed players think there right and when people make them realize there wrong they start swearing and bla bla la
you know the rest


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WTF? 3 votes for NM? hahahhaa :P MJ 4 ever!

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KentZ0ne wrote:
As far as i know crit dmg lvl6 on daggers give exactly 230-250 dmg or on crit skill it doubles the damage. But it stays like that with buffs or CD weapon. The only difference is on critical on skills like double shot or backstab , where you double that crit passive.

Yes, i think you're right. Crit power 6 gives almost 400 patk on crit. Vicious stance adds almost 600, and i knew vs gives 300 dmg or more. That checks the thing: vs is 1/2 better than the crt power, thus the damage is 1/2 better.

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Icarus wrote:
KentZ0ne wrote:
As far as i know crit dmg lvl6 on daggers give exactly 230-250 dmg or on crit skill it doubles the damage. But it stays like that with buffs or CD weapon. The only difference is on critical on skills like double shot or backstab , where you double that crit passive.

Yes, i think you're right. Crit power 6 gives almost 400 patk on crit. Vicious stance adds almost 600, and i knew vs gives 300 dmg or more. That checks the thing: vs is 1/2 better than the crt power, thus the damage is 1/2 better.
That's pure speculation oO

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You have a better idea? What i said and what Kent said match.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:44 pm 
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You said it. What YOU guys said match.
How do you know? I don't disagree with you, but how can u prove ur point?

Imo its random numbers that doesn't represent true values.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:14 pm 
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like that 50damage what you were talking about.


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