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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:10 pm 
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G3 with rates 8x.
Classes for adena


That will be enought


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:17 am 
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HAPKOMAH wrote:
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G3 with rates 8x.
Classes for adena


That will be enought


+1

Champion mobs are turn offs, spoil "exploit", and don't see the point of champion mobs... you can implement those coins on raids, or simply reward for winnng tvt, but champion mobs are not that great.

And, nobless w/o sub is just... tasteless, on a retail like server.
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Only thing a server needs, is those 2 things up, and bot protection, active admins that never give the used excuse " we got lives " for their lazyness, and decent files. That's all... do this, keep it on, and eventually people will come.


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:27 am 
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Server is down, and website is empty. Looks like this is end of track. Thanks to gm for making a try. And welcome to anyone who will try to pick up where all others have failed: A low-rate Gracia Final with english chat and a vital community.

RIP


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:59 am 
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Exactly as I predicted.

Look out for a new server on g3 coming up soon, I am sure that these GMs from Nefna will now start a server with full donation system :mrgreen:


edit:
LOLWUT, already?
there it is, L2 professionals seems like slightly altered Nefna.

Wonder how long will this one last? XD


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:56 pm 
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Well, by playing detective, I've found out that domains are regged different (Germany for Nefna, France for L2Pro), with different names (Schmidt vs. Cotan). This MIGHT be another team.... But timing is suspicious.....

Anyway, setup seems OK, I'll take a peek soon. No other servers to play on.. Btw, what they mean with party XP = 1 ???? And crafting gives xp ??? Never seen that...

Also, java or off ??

GM should make a thread here !!

GL !!


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:04 pm 
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What's the link of that .. l2profesionals? I might want to go on forum, and trash them a bit... not for " giving up " on the server, but for the way they choosed to do it. When they knew they couldn't keep up with it, time/experience/desire, they could have made a decent " blabla " just as a courtesy for those who trashed timed on their server, and for them.. for their self esteem as human beeings... but if they choosed to crap on us, and on themself I might want to do the same.. so please give me the link :)

I don't agree with Rhea to " thank " them... for what? for never updating that site? for getting tierd after 2 month of / fixing / when you had to teach them l2 so they will understand that soemthing is not right ( till the day it died, skils weren't fixed - I don't think they even started to fix them, beacause they didn't know how ), so anyway . for what to thank them?... I would have only thank them, if they were human beeings enough to close it down with decency.. not let it die on itself.

So, no .. no thanks to nefna


P.S to rhea :) I just rememberd there was a server, LONG TIME AGO, that gave xp on craft :) so it's most likely they have those fuking old files ( again??? )

update
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I found the server in the end, this i think http://l2pro.org/ , but I doubt it's them, at least I know for sure 1 of admins is a romanian dude, so .. nah.. not them.

Found the admin FB if anyone cares :))
https://www.facebook.com/claudiu.cotan?fref=ts


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:42 pm 
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3 features I don't like about that server

- Champions monsters are enabled to 12 % (lvl 1 - 76) with special drop (mana potion)

- Raid curse are disabled

- All members of clann can withdraw from Clan Wharehouse.


While, the thing with " all members can withdraw " as a CL you can prolly take the " wh search " option, but the other 2 :) ... they'll kinda make a mess.


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:15 pm 
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AdrianG wrote:
3 features I don't like about that server

- Champions monsters are enabled to 12 % (lvl 1 - 76) with special drop (mana potion)

- Raid curse are disabled

- All members of clann can withdraw from Clan Wharehouse.

I can live with the champs, the other two things must be fixed. For the curious who will check:
- 8x Gracia Final Java server
- NO gmshops
- NO buffer-NPC
- NO mammons in town
- autopickup
- auto-learn skills
- semi-auto class-change (pop-up dialouge-box)
- Online community server with NAMES OF ALL ONLINE CHARS !!!!!!

Just done a quick check. This setup made me able to start dwarf, level to 20, do class change, get ssd recipe and set up offline craft in less than 45 min. I don't mind skipping the class quests and tedious trips to skill masters this time; I have done all that before :) And for those who want it, I guess quests are active.

GM seems active, and willing to listen. If he don't put up a thread for server here, I might do it myself. It needs PR.


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:55 pm 
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Hello,

RheaCoos wrote:
Well, by playing detective, I've found out that domains are regged different (Germany for Nefna, France for L2Pro), with different names (Schmidt vs. Cotan). This MIGHT be another team.... But timing is suspicious.....

Location is irrelevant. it is just a server provider.

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Anyway, setup seems OK, I'll take a peek soon. No other servers to play on.. Btw, what they mean with party XP = 1 ???? And crafting gives xp ??? Never seen that...

Setup sucks actually.
party xp means you exp less in party than solo (no increase for a party member, thus each gets lower share)
Crafting for exp have been around since like forever. C4 if I recall correctly.
It is a bad idea because it was poorly designed in L2j - it takes time to craft - so if your A grade uses say 160 items, and crafter has level 7 it will take 7 items per tick (usually a second) before you will know if you failed or succeeded.
Also crafting exp does not scale with server rates so it is always like 1x

ps.
breaking like 5k a.bones with this system on takes forever.

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Also, java or off ??

If there is a xp for crafting, than it is L2j

EDIT:
But after seeing recent changes I might check it out:
> Geodata full
> Auto learn skills
> Auto loot items
> Now to change class, you will receive an message at level 20, 40 and 76 to do this.
> Subclass do not need quest.

Sounds good to me.
I do hate autolearn skills and rates not being flat is a bad idea, but the rest is pretty manageable.


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:37 pm 
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I still suggest you to check http://www.l2final.eu/ it is like 1 Month old, population got "killed" due to this "old azure/supreme" fame but it is getting more people again.Also HB got open like 1 week ago is just stage 2 atm, rates are more then welcome for new guys.

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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:13 pm 
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Lale wrote:
I still suggest you to check http://www.l2final.eu/

Tried it, nice server but I've got this "thing" about autopickup; can't play without it :(
And rates are 15, prefer rates below 10. Other than that, they have a nice setup.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:59 am 
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I agree.

rates 15x are a bit too high for me (max i play is 10) and no auto-pickup is ridiculous.

Maybe some other time.

If gms of nefnaproffesionals will fine tune their server it may be a winner.

So far it is just "Average".


EDIT:
Okay, the guys are trying.

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The server has been updated :

> Now you can drop items ont blue monsters ( 9 lvl difference ore more).
> Spoil rates was put to 8
> Quest reward to 3
> Quest drop to 3
> Pet XP rate to 4
> The recipe limit for dwarf is 150
> The rates of time to create an item was incaressed by 10.


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:29 pm 
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Lale wrote:
I still suggest you to check http://www.l2final.eu/ it is like 1 Month old, population got "killed" due to this "old azure/supreme" fame but it is getting more people again.Also HB got open like 1 week ago is just stage 2 atm, rates are more then welcome for new guys.

RIP. all RIP.

There's nowhere to play. AT ALL.
How can admins be so stupid can't put a good server up and get sweet cash from donations...


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:36 pm 
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MaliceMizer wrote:
There's nowhere to play. AT ALL.

http://forum.pmfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=49018

Say no more.


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 Post subject: Re: www.l2-nefna.com - 6X Gracia Final - Retail-like
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:59 pm 
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Man..i can't believe it got down to this point...a barely empty l2j is the only choice?!..DAMN!


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