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 Post subject: playstyle of necromancer
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:57 pm 
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i got a lvl 64 necro but i noob with at pvp. please write how to use skills. which skill againts defferent classes. i've got dc robe set and miracles with acumen at lvl 64 is it OK?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:43 pm 
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well equipment is good
pvp-ing with a necromancer is really not that hard.
against all classes you can summon either corrupted man or cursed man and toggle transfer pain.you can also use the summons to attack as they can deal a lot of damage.
vs fighters: gloom,death spike until they die and if needed use curses like fear,weakness,chaos,anchor etc
vs mages : silence,gloom,deathspike etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:49 pm 
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i better say VS ALL classes
WEAKNESS
SILENCE
ANCHOR
HIT
HIT
INCORECT TARGET
INCORECT TARGET


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:40 pm 
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why would you silence a dagger or a destroyer or any other fighter?
OR why would you cast weakness on a sps/sorc?
oh there are summoners too btw.
in this case,you need to either:
A.silence/disable the summoner and kill the summon
B.cast fear/sleep on the summon and kill the summoner
C.disable both and kill the summon first

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:49 pm 
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SILENCE for dagger.... to not use Hex, Power brake, Freezing strike, drain (AW) this why... and like a joke use those 3 skills ... u only need F1 F2 F3....:))))


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:32 pm 
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It's rather illogical to use power break and slow on a necro don't you think? What he will outrun you? MAYBE when you are slowed already. But hex too, the land rate is pretty bad. You should cast hex when he's trying to run. Quick backstab and hex, nothing else. If the hex lands, he's a screwed cat. AND daggers got substantial chances against the necros cause they kill the summon in what? 2 hits?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:35 pm 
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full buffed necro+corrupted man VS a dagger...
you're joking right?how can you say necro loses?you have 2 nukers vs 1 dagger and the second nuker also deals a shitload of p damage.while you try to kill the summon,you get cursed and nuked to ground.sleep/weakness/chaos/anchor/fear(big chance of landing).
it's like
necro hits for 1000 damage
corrupted man hits for 1000 damage/300 damage
necro hits for another 1000 damage
corrupted hits for 1000 damage/300 damage
necro hits for yet another 1000 damage
etc.
dagger cries

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:31 pm 
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Ok let there be light :P

If you are a dagger and you wanna kill a necro heres what you do:

Lets say the necro is a noob...first you make him hunt you (you curse him or you hit him with a bow or whatever :p but dont get closer than 900 range and dont get hit more than once!).
Now...most of you don't take seriously the fact that the summons of the necromancer are Faster than him..so he will send the summon after you as well....you run until the summon outruns the necromancer and they have a big distance between each other (master and summon) about 900-1200 is good.
Now you suddenly turn around (if you have dash use it) and you attack the summon and stab it until its dead as fast as you can before the necro gets in range and starts casting...even if he hits you 1-2 spells dont worry..just kill the damn summon,after it drops dead you start running again until you recover your CP and HP,then you turn around again and attack the necro,if you can hide behind a wall and wait then do it!,the necro with ought a summon and transfer pain on is a soft and easy target, just get close and butch him ;)

I have tried this technique and it works 80% on noob necros and 10% on professional necros :P

Later i will post some necro playstyles :P

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:50 pm 
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i don't believe we're talking about noob necros :)
oh and yes,daggers CAN beat necros if they succeed the lethalblow so they have 1 cp and 1 hp left :)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:30 pm 
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Believe me when i say that in all private servers only a 5% knows how to play on a master level, the rest only press buttons and wonder why do they die always first..

Now some necro play styles :P
First,when you go on pvp/war/ganging/duel/whatever ALWAYS have a summon with to share damage...a necromancer with ought a summon and transfer pain on is a Dead man walking...i prefer for mass pvp/war the cursed man he is fast,he doest have much HP to share but deals a shit load of damage..and looks scary :P dont forget to carry soul and spirit shots for your summon.
Always keep your summon inside your casting range (900) if you get separated from it you will probably die..
Always have you summon action buttons and skills open and ready-to-use also make macros for potions and forced attacks to act fast ;)
When things get started always target the enemy mages/archers first from 700-900 distance,dont get too close cause you will get de-buffed,send the summon and attack after it(wait until it takes all the targets),always cast gloom first then curse/nuke (silence,anchor,or whatever)
On other mages i just cast gloom,send the summon and nuke him until he is dead..on fighters i gloom them then nukem the and vortex them in the end remember that vortex is powerful but SLOW to cast so cast it wisely.
Use mass slow or curse of doom on daggers/gladiators/tyrant and generally on close range attack types cause if they get to you,you can only run and cast curses only if they are low on hp try to nuke.
You are one of the slowest chars in the game but this doesn't mean you must not kite, distance is the key to win many battles,for example once a dagger was hunting me, i knew there was now way to outrun him so i when to the stairs in the forbidden Gateway and made sudden turns,every time i turned the dagger got stuck between the wall and stairs and that gave me a chance to Curse him and nuke until he was dead.
Now lets talk about archers...they are a real pain in the ass for sure..so when they are around you act like a dagger,you hide behind walls and wait for him to come close (600 range) then you appear and nuke him,dont try to hunt them you will 95% die...
Remember to send your summon on soft and slow targets like daggers or mages and never out of casting range, always keep distance and run if you have too,never hunt faster enemies...have patience and wait,remember
that you are a de-buffer not a nuker so curse first and then nuke.

well thats all for now :P

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:23 pm 
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raash wrote:
i better say VS ALL classes
WEAKNESS
SILENCE
ANCHOR
HIT
HIT
INCORECT TARGET
INCORECT TARGET


LOL....BEST LOL IN A WEAK......


@ sir adrian
full buffed necro+corrupted man VS a dagger...

why you dont consider full buffed necro+corrupted man VS ful buffed Dagger.... you will never hit 1 k damage on a full buffed dagger.... and your debufs will not land 100%....and your sumon have a sh1ty cast speed....until you cast all the curses and you sumon cast twice....the dager is on you ass and the intrerupt start coming out........


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:11 pm 
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Lokia wrote:
raash wrote:
i better say VS ALL classes
WEAKNESS
SILENCE
ANCHOR
HIT
HIT
INCORECT TARGET
INCORECT TARGET


LOL....BEST LOL IN A WEAK......


@ sir adrian
full buffed necro+corrupted man VS a dagger...

why you dont consider full buffed necro+corrupted man VS ful buffed Dagger.... you will never hit 1 k damage on a full buffed dagger.... and your debufs will not land 100%....and your sumon have a sh1ty cast speed....until you cast all the curses and you sumon cast twice....the dager is on you ass and the intrerupt start coming out........


lmao... if you're a WR or GH lvl 78 just run to the necro and use Bluff,backstab,deadly blow, lethal blow and after that kill the newly orfen necro summon... :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:18 pm 
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Adrian look. I kill the summon with 2-3 blows if i am buffed. The corrupted man deals 1K DMG? If it does 1k dmg i'm pope the hitman. It's WEAK you may better use cursed man for the stun. The necro is going to hit me around 850 dmg not 1k as you say.

So what it looks like? Most necros don't even use summons for attack. I do what? Kill the summon in 2 hits, let's say cp gone and 1/4 hp gone. What next? Bluff, backstab, deadly blow, lethal blow. The necro is alive? Oh noes! Deadly blow once again. A buffed dagger isn't that easy to beat as you say.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:59 pm 
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the numbers i used are only hypothetical.not real.
also i'd use corrupted man vs daggers/archers because a decent dd will start the fight with UE so normal hits are worthless(cursed man),better use empowered+blessed beast spiritshots for extra nuke.yes you will kill the summon in a few hits,but in that time the necro won't try to heal it,but will focus on you.debuffs/nukes/dead.
also
if you're on a field with some monsters around,it's really hard vs necro because their summons come out really quick(much faster than summoners :/)
and they can just sleep,slow,summon but that's a different case.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:38 pm 
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@ sir adrian.
if you're on a field with some monsters around,it's really hard vs necro because their summons come out really quick


man..no ofence plzz....but wtf you think will w8 for you to...
1. kill a mob...
2. summon


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