U say that Powind sux and that go for SE? Do u even read what u write??? Powater + clarity own that empower. Without powater uare -20 % casting so who cares about empower?? It's c6 not freya/hi5 omg

God, you must have been real nonfactor then. And you gonna lvl WC just for cov, which is only a bit better than PoW, and stay WITHOUT HEAL ON PVP. Probably pow is only for pt members, afaik, but i can be wrong. Whatever. and its easier to get 20 once per 20 minutes EMP, than every 5 mins find wc/ee to get pow, lol. Not to mention that mage+se will lose to mage+ee, even if they gonna be afk, ee gives you more cst speed m def and conc effect from pow, also m atk just less, but higher dps you got with ee.

end of discussion for me, it would be easier to explain that to my dog.

doubt it

ot: dont read the posts above. pof is the best for mages also with greater might and death whisper ur nuker gonna crit for 10k+

Don't forget AS with CD ;]

Damn, I should have switched to sarcasm mode much eariler :>

1 more time i notice here is full with wooden idiots who have only theories but they never tried how they work in real.

You dont need to make box wc to 78 lvl lol, you will enter in clan and somebody else will be wc. WHY YOU WILL STAY WITHOUT HEAL IN PVP???? There will be bishops . EE will be absolutly useless to 74 lvl, you will XP much slower and harder. on 78 lvl with POWater it wont be so diferent how you think and this 20% c speed wont compencate lack of empower. Also you can have OL in clan maybe?

Also guy who think he will run every 15 mins to town to ask for emp, why you dont try it and then come back here to talk again? Also this automaticly mean you will never farm in catacomb

Maybe you should try first and then come here to write with your ass

Read 1st post. and again. then again. and once more.

Did the author said he can take whole clan to buff and to pvp with him? no, he asked which buffer char would be the best to duo. Can the answer be OL from clan, pow/cov found somewhere, heal from nearby clanmate bystander, and whole fullbuffed pt to help against enemies? I doubt it. If you want to rely on clan only you will achieve nothing, so you should farm on your own.
And don't argue about IL since I spent 80% of my l2 time there.

ee is absolutly useless to74 and even to 78, it will slow you only. You will XP much faster with empower, in pvp its not so easy to say who will win, mage with EMP will do more dmg but it mostly depends what mage you are and do you have silence or not.

About pvps most of your pvps shouldnt be 2 vs 2 or you are playing on server with 50 active ppl?
Dont forget on interlude hitting 78 lvl mean endgame and not "you just start to farm" like on newer chronicles.

If you ever played mage on c6 you will know SE>>EE

But except emp and wm you have nothing! even heals!
I played already(and i play also now) ee+sps duo, and on pp buffs and dances from boxes we could easily rape 6-7 ppl party, mostly because of trance and major heal, which SE doesn't have. Ofc, it's harder to exp EE, coz ur right it's useless at low lvls, but later it gets better, and also can lethal in pagans. The point should be, if you can have active char, go for EE, if just box SE, also depends if you prefer playing with clan all the time, or just duo with boxes for buffs.

You got different point of view, and ur right somehow, but you will really miss pow if you were in situation without clanmates.

EE > SE from C5-GF. When you're rolling with 2 boxes and you have clan hall buffs, having emp 1 + pow + clarity > emp 3. If you don't have clan hall buffs, you're going to be gimp whether u have EE or SE, because neither of them has good buffs.

On the other hand, if you're botting to end game as a nuker, having an SE will help u more than EE.

because you killed some randoms which was lower levels than you or not buffed (mental shiled) 1 sph or necro to silence your EE or bd/sws/tank to aggro it and it become absolutly useless and QQ. SE have heals it also have group heals, something that EE dont. Sps without emp just cant make dmg to kill somebody if he has group heals of SE

there is no way ee + sps on pp buffs to kill 7 ppl party no matter what chars if they are medium level players

Maybe if you got full epics + oed AM it gets possible, its much more than usual equip

que dises gringo?

The basis of your argument is an incorrect statement. You lose.

quote what you think is wrong or dont post at all. I remember you fail hard in some other topic, but dont remember which

SE has usual greater group heal, it's damn slow and heals a little, it's like 1/10 of major group, it's rather useless skill tbh