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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:06 am 
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Nukers kill tanks easy as fuck. Tanks DPS is shitty, and with CP pots you can't die to tank xD Unless you're handicap that is....

That should be self buffed. Full buffed, the mage's only hope is cancel/CoD/anchor or slow.
With 100% shield def rate (sk/tk), the mdef goes uuup permanently.

Yes cuz full buffed the tank will have 1500+ m def.
And you wont kill it cuz of that, right?

Cuz with full buffs you'll have 3k+m att :d


listen here..tank are able to bloc magical spells with the shield..fullbuffed as far as i remember when blocked the mdef jubs to 2.8k rigt?icarus?


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About there... 2.75k.

Hey... Did you notice that when you equip your weapon you get more damage from your enemy? That's what l2calc sais lol. :|

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must be a bug or something :)


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l0l never tryed that.. i have to check it..btw it could be rly some bug..but dont trust too much to l2calc..cuz we dont know how they calculate that shi7..i can say my source is ncsoft 2..


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Even with 2,2+ m def, what are ur chances exactly? lol
Your dps is still low as fuck, unless you have boss jewels, all buffs, +++ DB.
I don't see where u ever seen tank killing nuker outside of arena.. xD
Unless its full stacked paly with AI on lol

And remember that if you pull the full stacked card i can put it too
for an even pvp xD valakas necklace + PoW + wm2 + siren.
Thing is, in even pvp tank would never have a possibility.
Unless nuker is handicap lol

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arest,sks freeze,entangle,hamstre make the tank good
also smart cubic(tk),para attack(sk) ofcourse AI,hate :)
shield stun and there are bunch of other skills that make the tank good oponent
also resist shock and greater shield are the things that make the nuker resist the dmg of the tank but tanks can have bunch of resists
magical shield(the m def buff ffs),resist buff,arcane,holy,unholy blablalbal resist that make him dangerous


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Even with 2,2+ m def, what are ur chances exactly? lol
Your dps is still low as fuck, unless you have boss jewels, all buffs, +++ DB.
I don't see where u ever seen tank killing nuker outside of arena.. xD
Unless its full stacked paly with AI on lol

And remember that if you pull the full stacked card i can put it too
for an even pvp xD valakas necklace + PoW + wm2 + siren.
Thing is, in even pvp tank would never have a possibility.
Unless nuker is handicap lol

Don't be so sure. Haven't you seen full buffed tanks? Haven't you seen a fullbuffed pala with AI or even a fullbuffed sk with pain of shilen? They get your ass down in an instant.
I remember MY last pvp as a tank on l2gold. Goddammit, i will never forget it. My sk, npc buffed + a necro with transfer pain on. Slow lands, time to aggro and grind the fucker's ass, with transfer pain on, because the summon was far.
Don't underestimate tanks. In fullbuffed pvp, they're somewhere at the top in the pvp hierarchy along with daggers and archers.

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all depends on the players skills and equipment and ofc lvl difference


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Have you seen fullbuffed nukers?
Full stacked nuker is the best DD in the game. Cuz of m crits.
Tanks are hard to kill, but who the fuck targets tanks?
With assist, aggro is almost useless, and tank's dps is horrible.
All in all, why would someone take with him a tank than a DD?

And L2Gold? lolol no ty...

Only paladin gets relatively high dps when in AI. But just that.

I fought vs a PP buffed DA with cat, he didn't even reach my hp.
His cat died like 4-5 nukes. He stunned and rooted me but pff...
Not like his 150 dmg can ever kill me :p
Thats what tank is about...
And if you arse yourself to get dances/songs cov etc on tank..
Then just lol, get any othrt class... uses them better.

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u mix all kinds of pvp in 1.. who targets tanks?in 1v1 even in 2v2:)diff thing is tank that tanks for a pt diff thing is a tank that fights forhimself tanks are rly good in pvp cuz his tiny 150 dmg can last endless cuz of his high hp cp and also he can use shieldstuns and ofc cuz of ur low con and proly ur dc set(not mj) ull get stuned often:)
and SKs dmg will be way higher with hex,ull be pretty bad if he curses u with cureless poison,he is able to drain ur hp passively(cubic) and to slow u down and to para u:)
tk is able to put entangle on u and with his high base dex(higher atk sod,higher crit rate) he will woo0p ur ass+he is able to healhimself(cubic+heals+tol:P)
well DA stands kinda lowest chances cuz if his panther dies he is slow moving peace of metal
pali-well AI says all+selfresurection:)shield stuns etc etc


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Have you seen fullbuffed nukers?
Full stacked nuker is the best DD in the game. Cuz of m crits.
Tanks are hard to kill, but who the fuck targets tanks?
With assist, aggro is almost useless, and tank's dps is horrible.
All in all, why would someone take with him a tank than a DD?

And L2Gold? lolol no ty...

Only paladin gets relatively high dps when in AI. But just that.

I fought vs a PP buffed DA with cat, he didn't even reach my hp.
His cat died like 4-5 nukes. He stunned and rooted me but pff...
Not like his 150 dmg can ever kill me :p
Thats what tank is about...
And if you arse yourself to get dances/songs cov etc on tank..
Then just lol, get any othrt class... uses them better.

It's hundred percent clear that you haven't heard of: divine protection, unholy resistance, arcane protection, dance of alignment, dance of elemental, dance of aqua guard, song of storm guard, song of flame guard and song of invocation.
With those on a tank takes ridiculous damage with the posted setup.

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u mix all kinds of pvp in 1.. who targets tanks?in 1v1 even in 2v2:)diff thing is tank that tanks for a pt diff thing is a tank that fights forhimself tanks are rly good in pvp cuz his tiny 150 dmg can last endless cuz of his high hp cp and also he can use shieldstuns and ofc cuz of ur low con and proly ur dc set(not mj) ull get stuned often:)
and SKs dmg will be way higher with hex,ull be pretty bad if he curses u with cureless poison,he is able to drain ur hp passively(cubic) and to slow u down and to para u:)
tk is able to put entangle on u and with his high base dex(higher atk sod,higher crit rate) he will woo0p ur ass+he is able to healhimself(cubic+heals+tol:P)
well DA stands kinda lowest chances cuz if his panther dies he is slow moving peace of metal
pali-well AI says all+selfresurection:)shield stuns etc etc

1st of all, can land endlessly? A pp buffed nuker will hit pp buffed tank for
1k the least with surrender. lool Count the number of hits needed.

2nd, there's no self resurrection. The skill description in offi site is wrong.
They changed in on Ct1 beta afaik. It works like a noblesse buff.

3rd, lol all that skills you mentioned, sound good but are close to 0 in usefulness when you fight some nuker.
Lets say you're entangled, rooted etc etc etc...
You just use: surrender to wind, wind vortex and hurricane and keep f1.
How much is gonna tank last? when he UDs you run, not like root lands always.

Edit: Lol Icarus still retarded as I see :D
How will you get all that crap in 1 vs 1?? XD
And rly...even if u do, nuker will get same stuff and kill you.
Why? His dmg (even full stacked) will be low, lets say 600 dmg (lol)
He's gonna kill you only with m crits, if stacked that is.

Now be real, you have tank and play vs SH.
HOW will you get resist wind, storm guard, warding?
Its fuckin 1 vs 1 lol

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3rd, lol all that skills you mentioned, sound good but are close to 0 in usefulness when you fight some nuker.
Lets say you're entangled, rooted etc etc etc...
You just use: surrender to wind, wind vortex and hurricane and keep f1.
How much is gonna tank last? when he UDs you run, not like root lands always.


look now friend:)-->entangled=slow moving=tank close to u=u get interrupted all the time
rooted=interrupted(not so often cuz u r proly human tank)/shield stunned...wo0t goes down goes down goes down goes down BUM-angelic icon/root/shieldstun(1 allawayes will work) u start his ass..tol-->wo0t tank is healed!:D if there is DA and he keeps agro onhimself+roots u-->panther is near u-->u get shitloadz of dmg:)(ell not shitloadz but still its nice dmg )
SK-hexed,poisoned all the time:)--roted-->tank with higest str and high dex is near u:) u r hexed:) u get interrupted:)..sk restores all the time portions of the lost hp cuz his cubic helps him:)..the pvp may end in the start just coz of paralyzis:)

u use all of the skills that u have:)thats why they are added


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Interrupted all the time? What game are you playing again? oO
Interrupt comes outa damage and tanks have low damage and dont
have any uber att speed either...
What makes you think you'll be interrupted alot?

get your facts straight oO

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interrupted=ai+pali next to u:)
interrupted=sk next to u:)ur thery about the dmg..well hex+41 str base=good dmg output
well tk has lower chances but focus weapon+his high dex+entangle= wo0t wo0t


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