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 Post subject: Duelist, damage problem :o
PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:46 pm 
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Hi all :)

Sorry for my bad english sometimes, ok ? :D

So, actually i'm on an High rate server (h5) because i want to learn about the Duelist class.
I have a +16 weap and some piece of armor refined to max.

My main problem is not play duelist as a pro, i think i'm pretty good on my skill bombo, reflex ...
It's about my global dps.
I saw some video my muertelegend in oly ... 3 skill 2 crit and they are dead xD.
Me ? When i do Blaster - storm - buster - TSS i don't kill a squishy even if i crit on all skills xD.
In fact i do more damage by my auto attack ...
I want to be able to kill dagger, and not just be two shooted by them.
Does i sucks or duelist are not realy good in high rate serv? Only dagger and bowman ...

About my dyes ? +4 str +4 con +4 wit /-4int -8dex

If you don't help me i take my dagger and deal some lethal blow and pwn them all !

Ty if you can help me to be a better duelist :D


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:50 pm 
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Have you enchanted your skills? Have you put 300 element on your weapon?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:16 pm 
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Fleko wrote:
Hi all :)

Sorry for my bad english sometimes, ok ? :D

So, actually i'm on an High rate server (h5) because i want to learn about the Duelist class.
I have a +16 weap and some piece of armor refined to max.

My main problem is not play duelist as a pro, i think i'm pretty good on my skill bombo, reflex ...
It's about my global dps.
I saw some video my muertelegend in oly ... 3 skill 2 crit and they are dead xD.
Me ? When i do Blaster - storm - buster - TSS i don't kill a squishy even if i crit on all skills xD.
In fact i do more damage by my auto attack ...
I want to be able to kill dagger, and not just be two shooted by them.
Does i sucks or duelist are not realy good in high rate serv? Only dagger and bowman ...

About my dyes ? +4 str +4 con +4 wit /-4int -8dex

If you don't help me i take my dagger and deal some lethal blow and pwn them all !

Ty if you can help me to be a better duelist :D


Blaster - storm - buster - TSS is a fuking retarded combo.

You wont do alot of dmg on +16 armours. 800 max with aoes.
Muerte plays low rate where there arent alot of stacked people.


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Does i sucks or duelist are not realy good in high rate serv


yes and yes

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:37 pm 
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Try to max ur force before using skills, it boosts dmg, after ur combo ur prolly almost out of it, so ur tss crit simply sux

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:45 pm 
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I have + 10 skills and between +0 and +10 there is not a great difference ...
i have enchant pvp.


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Does i sucks or duelist are not realy good in high rate serv


yes and yes


I think so :D

But dagger on HR have 15k hp, and deals monster damage, and duelist has a little bit more and poor crit.
I think i will try duelist on low rate ... :/


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:46 pm 
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You wont do alot of dmg on +16 armours. 800 max with aoes.


300 aoe and 800-1k with tss.
On ppl with 20k HP =D


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:00 pm 
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Fleko wrote:
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You wont do alot of dmg on +16 armours. 800 max with aoes.


300 aoe and 800-1k with tss.
On ppl with 20k HP =D


300 earth duals, element on aoe`s+duel on tss.close range combo
buster-storm-buster-tss-maximum sonic focus-repeat.

Long range combo

storm-blaster-2 charges...use the ones you get at 40 not the range ones cause theyr faster-storm-blaster-repeat
Do disarm on reuse cause your dmg suks.
If you play h5 rush and use the close one as much as you can

Put 1 more str - dex ,fuk the wit ...you play l2j h rate so its useless.
A 1 vs 1 vs a dagger you`re pretty much fuked...all you can do is disarm him as much you can,or if you have epics get a blunt and use hammer crush,whyle he`s stunned dont hit him cause youll just take it off.If youre lucky and have epics maybe youll get a stun or two...wich is enough.When he`s out of ue`s dps on him.

Get as much p atk buffs as you can, use gmight and zerk

AND THIS IS CRUCIAL.
EVERYTIME YOU USE A SKILL THAT USES CHARGES RECHARGE TO 8...everything lower than 8 charges is lol dmg

You use aoes wich dont take charges then a tss, after that recharging 4 times is mandatory

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:38 pm 
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keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel and u gonna crush them :D

its lame to use elemental attributes after freya


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:43 am 
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bemyfrag wrote:
keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel and u gonna crush them :D

its lame to use elemental attributes after freya


aoes suk on duel route theyr power is to low to add any decent dmg on duel.
afaik they have around 450 power....duel route doubles the power in pvp and adds a bit per enchant.

at +30 duel it has around 1-1.1k power....but they do alot of dmg cause of the huge base p atk of the duelist.Tested both duel and elemental on 360 earth defence and earth element route does around 15-20% more dmg than duel route.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:47 am 
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oaiazzz wrote:
bemyfrag wrote:
keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel and u gonna crush them :D

its lame to use elemental attributes after freya


aoes suk on duel route theyr power is to low to add any decent dmg on duel.
afaik they have around 450 power....duel route doubles the power in pvp and adds a bit per enchant.

at +30 duel it has around 1-1.1k power....but they do alot of dmg cause of the huge base p atk of the duelist.Tested both duel and elemental on 360 earth defence and earth element route does around 15-20% more dmg than duel route.

Does this apply to other classes such as daggers, tyrants, titans ?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:53 am 
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AlanTheGreat wrote:
oaiazzz wrote:
bemyfrag wrote:
keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel and u gonna crush them :D

its lame to use elemental attributes after freya


aoes suk on duel route theyr power is to low to add any decent dmg on duel.
afaik they have around 450 power....duel route doubles the power in pvp and adds a bit per enchant.

at +30 duel it has around 1-1.1k power....but they do alot of dmg cause of the huge base p atk of the duelist.Tested both duel and elemental on 360 earth defence and earth element route does around 15-20% more dmg than duel route.

Does this apply to other classes such as daggers, tyrants, titans ?


Dagger should go for duel route...no idea about tyrants havent played them....
They way duel route works is like i said, it doubles the base skill dmg in pvp and adds what it says when you enchant it.
Example: Backstab has around 7k power if im not mystaken....+1 duel route doubles the power in pvp at 14k then it adds a bit per enchant.
And im pretty shure theres a breakpoint at around +20-25 that adds alot of power (not shure about this)
I had a +27 duel Backstab on a pw and it had around 15k power

Check the bottom of the skill description after you enchant...Skill Enchant : Adds 7042 power in pvp

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:27 am 
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keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel


Mh yes i will try that.

For the enchent for aoe's, i don't think it's a good idea now for me because i can't enchant to +30 ( yeah i'm in HR but i have to farm sometimes :P ) so i stay to a correct lvl ~10-15 and duel is better, right ?

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EVERYTIME YOU USE A SKILL THAT USES CHARGES RECHARGE TO 8

In mass pvp, when i hit someone who don't focus me, do you advise me to do that ? or burst burst burst ?

Ty for answer all :)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:38 am 
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Fleko wrote:
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keep on 8 forces all the time and put 300 holy + dance light and holy weapon , enchant skill for Duel


Mh yes i will try that.

For the enchent for aoe's, i don't think it's a good idea now for me because i can't enchant to +30 ( yeah i'm in HR but i have to farm sometimes :P ) so i stay to a correct lvl ~10-15 and duel is better, right ?

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EVERYTIME YOU USE A SKILL THAT USES CHARGES RECHARGE TO 8

In mass pvp, when i hit someone who don't focus me, do you advise me to do that ? or burst burst burst ?

Ty for answer all :)


Takes 2 seconds to do 4 charges

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:24 pm 
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Better make Phoenix Knight, get +16 weaps and armors and own everything.


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