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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:43 pm 
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Trolls that have never played daggers on board...

indeed, ga1 guy is new with the aw :mrgreen:

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in H5 titan dont make dmg, you need 2 parties support to can make 5 hits with big dmg with titan


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:27 pm 
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me beating NM in dagger vs dagger duel:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:29 pm 
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ahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:31 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
me beating NM in dagger vs dagger duel:

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half-kill noob not fair

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in H5 titan dont make dmg, you need 2 parties support to can make 5 hits with big dmg with titan


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:05 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
DEX IS BULLSHIT.



Ok dex is bullshit?? Can you tell me why on dynasty dagger master set they give you con-2 and dex+2???
And if i add str i will - con.....daggers dont need con either?????

I see many posts here but nobody said actually his opinion.

I said that i m using +4dex -4str/+1dex -1str/+4con -4str or +4str -4con.

Why dex is bullshit tell me??? Why to add str??? What i will earn more???


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:20 pm 
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Guyver wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
DEX IS BULLSHIT.



Ok dex is bullshit?? Can you tell me why on dynasty dagger master set they give you con-2 and dex+2???
And if i add str i will - con.....daggers dont need con either?????

I see many posts here but nobody said actually his opinion.

I said that i m using +4dex -4str/+1dex -1str/+4con -4str or +4str -4con.

Why dex is bullshit tell me??? Why to add str??? What i will earn more???



str more dmg , more success of skill mastery
con more hp , more stun resist
dex more speed and eva

dex gives also ,
atk.speed(u will lose maybe 50 with -dex)
crit.rate(not needed for blows)
accuarcy(not needed for blows)

evasion-> just needed enemys which atk w/o skills (tanks,archers)


so u want decrease dmg or hp for 5speed? Oo


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:53 pm 
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Guyver wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
DEX IS BULLSHIT.



Ok dex is bullshit?? Can you tell me why on dynasty dagger master set they give you con-2 and dex+2???
And if i add str i will - con.....daggers dont need con either?????

I see many posts here but nobody said actually his opinion.

I said that i m using +4dex -4str/+1dex -1str/+4con -4str or +4str -4con.

Why dex is bullshit tell me??? Why to add str??? What i will earn more???


Dyna gives +2 dex to increase the defensive points of daggers, their evasion and speed. Dex doesnt give anything useful but evasion, speed, crit rate (not an awesome boost since TH has low dex base so boosting it with +dex dyes wont give you great bonuses).
STR increases the success rate of skill mastery (no reuse of skill / double duration) and it increases the chance to crit on skill (2x dmg) (I heard that it also increases the land rate of half kills but Im not sure).

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:56 pm 
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but if ur playing in a joke sv those things wont work most likely

+5str imo
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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:36 pm 
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Guyver wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
DEX IS BULLSHIT.



Ok dex is bullshit?? Can you tell me why on dynasty dagger master set they give you con-2 and dex+2???
And if i add str i will - con.....daggers dont need con either?????

I see many posts here but nobody said actually his opinion.

I said that i m using +4dex -4str/+1dex -1str/+4con -4str or +4str -4con.

Why dex is bullshit tell me??? Why to add str??? What i will earn more???

Every dagger set gives dex because it fits the dagger profile. That doesn't mean dex is good for anything, it simply means that ncsoft guys are retarded and can't balance the stats.
Conclusion: if you think dex is great, please shut the fuck up.

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:20 am 
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Icarus wrote:
Guyver wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
DEX IS BULLSHIT.



Ok dex is bullshit?? Can you tell me why on dynasty dagger master set they give you con-2 and dex+2???
And if i add str i will - con.....daggers dont need con either?????

I see many posts here but nobody said actually his opinion.

I said that i m using +4dex -4str/+1dex -1str/+4con -4str or +4str -4con.

Why dex is bullshit tell me??? Why to add str??? What i will earn more???

Every dagger set gives dex because it fits the dagger profile. That doesn't mean dex is good for anything, it simply means that ncsoft guys are retarded and can't balance the stats.
Conclusion: if you think dex is great, please shut the fuck up.



I see we have ppl here that they cannot discuss at all....i didn't say dex is great, i just said what dyes i m using....if you ask 10 ppl you will get probably 10 different answers on this topic.

@icarus
if you cannot discuss a topic and just to say your opinion don't post at all....you dont need to flame dude...got it????

I see here you said a whole company is retarded(ncsoft) and they cannot balance the stats...so why don't you go and explain to them how to do it?? i guess you are the only NOT retarded person on this forum.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:06 am 
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Guyver wrote:
@icarus
if you cannot discuss a topic and just to say your opinion don't post at all....you dont need to flame dude...got it????

I see here you said a whole company is retarded(ncsoft) and they cannot balance the stats...so why don't you go and explain to them how to do it?? i guess you are the only NOT retarded person on this forum.

Being emo for getting flamed is not exactly wise on this forum.
And I think that if you ask people around here, most of them will agree with the fact that NCSoft has done a lot of useful or bad stuff regarding class balance.

If I could explain to them how to do it, I'd seriously take the chance and write them an e-mail but ofc they're too busy counting the money they're getting instead of reading the emails they're receiving. So it's a waste of time.
Some stats really need to be balanced and if you disagree you don't know what you're talking about. For example DEX gives nothing relevant except speed and evasion. Wow, from +5 dex 4 speed and 2 evasion. Are you kidding me? And if you drop 5 con you lose like 800 hp (depending on class) which is a lot. That's what I mean. And take MEN too. How much mdef does it give? Almost none. How much resistance does it give? Almost none. Dex and men need balancing because they're pretty downright useless. Especially men. You virtually lose nothing by -9 men.

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What off platform you dog? Off platform hasn't been a thing in years this game is only playable using Java and if you believe otherwise you're too stupid because every server you played has been Java

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:39 am 
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Icarus wrote:
Guyver wrote:
@icarus
if you cannot discuss a topic and just to say your opinion don't post at all....you dont need to flame dude...got it????

I see here you said a whole company is retarded(ncsoft) and they cannot balance the stats...so why don't you go and explain to them how to do it?? i guess you are the only NOT retarded person on this forum.

Being emo for getting flamed is not exactly wise on this forum.
And I think that if you ask people around here, most of them will agree with the fact that NCSoft has done a lot of useful or bad stuff regarding class balance.

If I could explain to them how to do it, I'd seriously take the chance and write them an e-mail but ofc they're too busy counting the money they're getting instead of reading the emails they're receiving. So it's a waste of time.
Some stats really need to be balanced and if you disagree you don't know what you're talking about. For example DEX gives nothing relevant except speed and evasion. Wow, from +5 dex 4 speed and 2 evasion. Are you kidding me? And if you drop 5 con you lose like 800 hp (depending on class) which is a lot. That's what I mean. And take MEN too. How much mdef does it give? Almost none. How much resistance does it give? Almost none. Dex and men need balancing because they're pretty downright useless. Especially men. You virtually lose nothing by -9 men.



You see it's not so difficult to tell your opinion :) this is what you should tell from the begining instead of flame...

Anyways...of course i agree that some things need to be balanced on this game but now we are talking with this facts that we have now.

Just to now i play on freya so i dont know how they make it on H5 or if they balanced something...when H5 comes on my server will see....maybe when they balanced dex you start to like it too and change your mind :D

So your point is to go +str +con and - dex if i get it right??? i saw in another post you said -5 con is not that much...???


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:29 am 
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i think noone said go -dex -> +str and +con
choose 1 if u like or dont put any , but its not rly worth to add dex on a dagger


.in h5 dex is same sh1t


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Guyver wrote:
You see it's not so difficult to tell your opinion :) this is what you should tell from the begining instead of flame...

Anyways...of course i agree that some things need to be balanced on this game but now we are talking with this facts that we have now.

Just to now i play on freya so i dont know how they make it on H5 or if they balanced something...when H5 comes on my server will see....maybe when they balanced dex you start to like it too and change your mind :D

So your point is to go +str +con and - dex if i get it right??? i saw in another post you said -5 con is not that much...???

Nono, +str -con. Because you don't lose that much hp.

In another post I was saying that dex is pretty useless and you COULD drop it. I've tested +5str -5dex and you may call me a retard, but I find it surprisingly good for oly. Speed drop isn't too much, evasion drop is insignificant. It's very good for many situations.

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:15 am 
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Tnx fot your answers guys....i guess i will make some tests too :wink:

i will try first -5,6 con...is not much right????? and after -5,6 dex.


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