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 Post subject: Doombringer Guide
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:01 pm 
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Please do not flame and try correct me if im wrong in something, this is kamael guide for HR servers.

* DOOMBRINGER *

You basically have to focus on the weakness of your opponent it's a very tactical class.
For example: If you PvP against a mage, do not hesitate to use Furious Soul, True Berserker (2 buffs that greatly increase your power, but reduces p def just as much ... very useful against mages) and especially dont forget your Soul Barrier (which greatly increase your Mdef and your resistance to arrows).

Then rush the mage to be directly in combat melee, trying blows without physical skills: you have two choices:

* If the opponent has less Reflect that you have a drain, continuing to strike without physical skills: is your most formidable weapon as a damage dealer.
* Your opponent has more Reflect that you have a drain, in this case is trying to throw him Disarm, Crushing Pain, and all your other physical skills.

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Against an archer, do not hesitate to use Soul Barrier (Archer doens't make more than 450dmg by critical) but still tryi not to use True and Furious Berserker Soul, an archer who runs is never alone.

Subsequently, again two choices:

* Archer that run: it is finished, you just let your finger pressing Rush impact, and victory is yours.
* Archer that dont run:It is like a mage: Soul barrier, Disarm, Crushing Pain Etc...
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Against a tank: Not many solutions: Use Violent Temper (It might save you) and damage skills... Unless you see that the tank has Smart cubic, in that case use only damage skills. (Note: Dont use Disarm, he may return to you, same thing for footage)
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Against a dagger: The dagger has got no chance against you. Make disarm and he might run, in that case Rush Impact and use damage skills because of high evasion. If the dagger is pro and disarm didn't work use Eye for Eye and heal you with potions and Body Reconstruction.
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Against a Duelist, Tyrant, Dwarf: Attention, Duelist and tyrants will only really give you a lot of problems, they have a great Pdef to resist your skills, had reflect (70% if known to play) and they're skills will make high damage... So against them:

* Disarm (if land), violent temper, damage skills, if you see yourself in problems, Eye for Eye, Shield Sword, Body Reconstruction.
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Against Titan/Warlord: Play well on Reflect, Eye for eye, also activates Furious Soul and Soul Berseker to get more reflect damage, they will probably die with reflect.
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Against healers: Very simple, Rush Impact, Shoulder Charge, Disarm, Violent Temper, and it is finished! You should really hurt him either physically or skills, if you stun a while you win, if Violent Temper lands, you hit them for more than 3k.
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Good to remember all cons: Violent Temper is useful, but keep in mind that the time of launch, even with 500 cast you might have inflicted a crushing roll over...
Death Mark is only lvl 2 on your doombringer, so you must use it against the most resistant classes, which is not too bad, but it's a bit hard to land on Lv2, but when it happens believe me it feels.

Remember: You're a chicken, fragile and innocent, your role will be to kill before being killed ... You do not have a huge defense, but you have some skills that increase it (specificly saying) (Courage, Sword Shield, Soul Barrier, Body Reconstruction).

The dyes are in your choiceduring a PvP, you can increase your damage:

* STR+4 CON-4
* DEX+4 CON-4
* WIT+4 INT-4 (for Death Mark and Violent temper)

or promote your resistance to handle more shots before you die:

* CON+4 DEX-4
* CON+1 DEX-1
* WIT+4 INT-4 WIT (for Death Mark and Violent temper)

I hope you like, and if request I will post Soulhound and Tricker guides too, thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:49 pm 
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I know it's for highrates, and that u don't want any flames....but damn


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:51 pm 
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m0cking wrote:
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Against a dagger: The dagger has got no chance against you. Make disarm and he might run, in that case Rush Impact and use damage skills because of high evasion. If the dagger is pro and disarm didn't work use Eye for Eye and heal you with potions and Body Reconstruction.


Dagger has no chance against you?Oh really?Did you ever fight skillfull daggers?

m0cking wrote:
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Against healers: Very simple, Rush Impact, Shoulder Charge, Disarm, Violent Temper, and it is finished! You should really hurt him either physically or skills, if you stun a while you win, if Violent Temper lands, you hit them for more than 3k.
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Its not that simple killing healers cause you can get your mp drained pretty fast.

m0cking wrote:
The dyes are in your choiceduring a PvP, you can increase your damage:

* STR+4 CON-4
* DEX+4 CON-4
* WIT+4 INT-4 (for Death Mark and Violent temper)


Gl lowering your con that much especially on hr srvrs.

Anyway +1 for effort but it could have been better :)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:01 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:23 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:48 pm 
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m0cking wrote:
I hope you like, and if request I will post Soulhound and Tricker guides too, thanks.



no ty...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:03 am 
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NightMar3 wrote:
m0cking wrote:
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Against a dagger: The dagger has got no chance against you. Make disarm and he might run, in that case Rush Impact and use damage skills because of high evasion. If the dagger is pro and disarm didn't work use Eye for Eye and heal you with potions and Body Reconstruction.


Dagger has no chance against you?Oh really?Did you ever fight skillfull daggers?

m0cking wrote:
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Against healers: Very simple, Rush Impact, Shoulder Charge, Disarm, Violent Temper, and it is finished! You should really hurt him either physically or skills, if you stun a while you win, if Violent Temper lands, you hit them for more than 3k.
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Its not that simple killing healers cause you can get your mp drained pretty fast.

m0cking wrote:
The dyes are in your choiceduring a PvP, you can increase your damage:

* STR+4 CON-4
* DEX+4 CON-4
* WIT+4 INT-4 (for Death Mark and Violent temper)


Gl lowering your con that much especially on hr srvrs.

Anyway +1 for effort but it could have been better :)

he is right, no matter how skilled the dagger is, he will lose to skilled zerker
same goes for healers
basically zerk can kill most of classes pretty easily
the wprst r tanks, those chars will make a lot of problems to him both in pvp and on oly, still u can rely on their own stupidity and watch them killing themselves on ur eye for eye
bcuz berserker doesnt really rely on his patk he should use +dex -str, +con - str and +wit -int
with -8 str he loses like 100 dmg on crushing pain, what is completely nothing compared to advantages of +con and +dex
with this setup and weapon +hp he can reach over 16k hp and become real pain in the ass
its one of the best chars atm and i guess very high land rate or stun from rush impact and disarm werent well thought by ncsoft and made this char simply overpowered


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:42 pm 
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Lineage 2 is all about Element Enchant and ++skills. This two things here > "player skill", if there is one anymore. The last movie of xBelial has show that i am right....most of his skills are 15+ and that Duelist from the movie was a killing machine with just Duelist Spirit +20,crited like 5-6k / Sonic Buster. So have fun with F1 PvP Tactic and watch everyone die just because you use daddy credit card or bot 2 years :) no one is playing anymore lineage nowdays,most of the players just log on for Siege and stuff like that because with every update Lineage is becomeing more like WoW and no one likes that. If you didn't see the movie i am talking about search for it and watch it,it's worth every second. Imo the only way for Nc to save this game and make some real money is to open some 20x or so server and voila every lolprivate server will close and every lineage 2 player in the hole world will join retail. And ofc they should add some sort of Shops with gear till S grade and some buffer because this way no one will start boxing toons that don't realy play with,it's their fault to make all Support Classes usless so let me deal with it. I am talking about some sort of a PvP orientated server...Overall retail is retail,but this will never happen !


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:41 pm 
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fail guide..
a skilled dagger will rape ur ass easly...
but if its not a skilled dagger u will win XD fAIL!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:16 pm 
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I have some problems with my berserker. I now that I am not the best player :)
I had fights with tank,daggers. Tank was about 73, I am 77. I died :) . I attacked him with crushing pain and dark smash, also tried disarm, but it reflected it all the time and I died :) .

I never run(not showing my back for him) from dagger if its not stunned or disarmed. Once dagger was 72level and wearing B grade armor and bloody orchid, I was wearing dc light(its better for mefor pve_ and Heavends divider , he kicked my ass ( im 77) . I did my best, I even used body reconstruction and UD, and he still killed me.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:44 pm 
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Naujakurys wrote:
I have some problems with my berserker. I now that I am not the best player :)
I had fights with tank,daggers. Tank was about 73, I am 77. I died :) . I attacked him with crushing pain and dark smash, also tried disarm, but it reflected it all the time and I died :) .

I never run(not showing my back for him) from dagger if its not stunned or disarmed. Once dagger was 72level and wearing B grade armor and bloody orchid, I was wearing dc light(its better for mefor pve_ and Heavends divider , he kicked my ass ( im 77) . I did my best, I even used body reconstruction and UD, and he still killed me.


Don't play bers, play with easer char till you get experience in l2.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:29 pm 
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that winged chicken doesnt have any chance vs. experienced and boosted dagger :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:22 pm 
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NightMar3 wrote:
m0cking wrote:
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Against a dagger: The dagger has got no chance against you. Make disarm and he might run, in that case Rush Impact and use damage skills because of high evasion. If the dagger is pro and disarm didn't work use Eye for Eye and heal you with potions and Body Reconstruction.


Dagger has no chance against you?Oh really?Did you ever fight skillfull daggers?




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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:06 am 
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Am not supporting that dagger has no chance vs bers but have u ever fought vs a skilled berserker?
Its a nightmare for every class.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:12 am 
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skilled dagger > skilled db imo

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