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 Post subject: Re: Question About Pdef in Gracia Final
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:44 pm 
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In this server when u enchant shield dont give p def. So i think that happens only in highs rates xD


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:49 pm 
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shield doesnt give pdef to stats
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the pdef is added to ur main defence stat only when blocking with it

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:53 pm 
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shield doesnt give pdef to stats
jesus
the pdef is added to ur main defence stat only when blocking with it

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gz captain obvious, check the last posts :D
NFA said that in some lolretardedfailureservers shields give pdef to stats, and that they may give in deviant's lolserver too, but they don't.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:59 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
shield doesnt give pdef to stats
jesus
the pdef is added to ur main defence stat only when blocking with it

:shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


gz captain obvious, check the last posts :D
NFA said that in some lolretardedfailureservers shields give pdef to stats, and that they may give in deviant's lolserver too, but they don't.

oh soz
it is very strange but i dont happen to read carefuly loldiscussions
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:14 am 
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Shields give mdef too.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:20 am 
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Icarus wrote:
Shields give mdef too.


I think you can get extra mdef only from masterwork bonus..normal shield gives shield def rate while sigil give pdef :) You can check that on google tho..

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:20 am 
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c'mon, that big shield (black with spikes) give tons of stats - including hp/cp/mp. and reflects 100% dmg.
every1 knows that. http://img262.imageshack.us/i/vve740942412a.jpg/

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:30 am 
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Nono. I ain't playing servers with fucking titanium armor sets. Shields give magic defence on block. Certain spells can be blocked. Have you never wondered why a necro gives such low dmg to a tank while the sps does not? Death spike can be blocked. Hurricane can be blocked. And there are some other spells as far as I remember.

Check l2calc. You have mdef on shield block under combat calculations.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:31 am 
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def rate, not mdef into stats :) got what I mean ?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:35 am 
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No, you really didn't understand. When a shield blocks it gives 1. pdef and 2. mdef. Death spike and hurricane trigger the shield block, while prominence and hydro blast don't.

Check l2calc's combat calculations tab and build a tank.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:37 am 
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Why would ds/hurri get blocked and prominence not ?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:39 am 
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Xmvp wrote:
Why would ds/hurri get blocked and prominence not ?


CUZ EVERY1 KNOWS HUMANS PLAYING WITH FIRE ARE DANGEROUS

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:26 pm 
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Well I get that hydro blast wouldn't be blocked and hurri/ds would. Those are projectiles while hydro comes out of the ground. It doesnt make too sense too me to implement that in a game. Anywho, why wouldnt prominence be blocked? Its also a projectile, so I see no reason for that. Afaik, all direct damage skill can be blocked by a shield

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:41 pm 
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Prominence should be a projectile, but it's not. Notice that when prominence hits the target doesn't make that 'pain' animation just like he does when being hit by a normal weapon (melee). This thing clearly separates projectile-based attacks from lolmaosecretwaytoattack attacks.

And yes, it's completely retarded for ncsoft to leave it that way, I have no idea what they were thinking to leave prominence and hydro blast non-projectile. Maybe they wanted sorcs and sps to kill tanks faster.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:25 pm 
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My char here guys,

I got vesper armor and vesper shapper {pvp}, got the fs exciting, expose to weak, rune hide and exiciting and soon i will try get figthers will.
Well the shapper vesper i got augment shield pdef passive when is equipped lv 10. (2929 p def with vesper armor +10).
I got in a b grade weapon aug m def lv 10 active, so with that i can get like 3.2k m def(rune+jews+10+aug m def active).

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Did u like my skill bar :)


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